Support Forums: Message List - TechTalk: Ward Cunningham on the Patterns Movement http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Tue, 21 May 2013 19:55:23 -0400 There are paired accontants http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 Please don't compare accoutants and lawyers with programmers. We are more closer to an artist, as a matter of fact programming is an art. Have you ever seen two painters painting "Mona Lisa".
How about thinking this...]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:32:42 -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:32:42 -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:32:42 -0500 Dec 8, 2004 Kei Sugimoto 0 ROTF http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:34:53 -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:34:53 -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:34:53 -0500 Dec 8, 2004 peter lin 0 There are paired accontants http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 Certified public accountants also often work in pair, so that they do not make mistakes in verification of digits and in any significant accounting judgement. It seems natural to me that any intellectual human activities involve close...]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:27:15 -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:27:15 -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:27:15 -0500 Dec 8, 2004 Rashid Jilani 2 There are paired accontants http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354
It seems natural to me that any intellectual human activities involve close...]]> Wed, 08 Dec 2004 09:12:05 -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 09:12:05 -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 09:12:05 -0500 Dec 8, 2004 Kei Sugimoto 3 TechTalk: Ward Cunningham on the Patterns Movement http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 Architecture is so important that everybody has to have it in mind all the time and to think that we can take the responsibility for good architecture and concentrate it in one individual is the real mistake.
Doh!!!]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2004 21:24:56 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 21:24:56 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 21:24:56 -0500 Dec 7, 2004 Star Trooper 0 Patterns get a bad rap. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354
http://hookom.blogspot.com/]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:46:53 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:46:53 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:46:53 -0500 Dec 7, 2004 hookomjj 0 Patterns get a bad rap. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 Thanks for the complimants Bill... After so many years the only concrete lesson that I tout to undersatnd with out the subjective cloud of fuzziness is high cohesion and low coupling. After so many years again back then the GOF gave me a...]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:30:13 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:30:13 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:30:13 -0500 Dec 7, 2004 Bill Willis 1 There are paired doctors http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 Know any 'paired lawyers', 'paired doctors' or 'paired accountants'?
Actually, according to an article in the New Yorker some months ago, doctors in hospital often work in pairs. As soon as one doctor has mastered a certain...]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2004 07:12:33 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 07:12:33 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 07:12:33 -0500 Dec 7, 2004 Daniel Dittmar 4 TechTalk: Ward Cunningham on the Patterns Movement http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 I am sooooooo glad that they aprove.I was a bit insecure before MS blessed paterns and was not sure if I should quote GoF to anyone. Everyone, out of the closet!.V
Yeah. We need now only Miguel de Icaza to take back that...]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2004 02:44:57 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 02:44:57 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 02:44:57 -0500 Dec 7, 2004 Dorel Vaida 0 Patterns get a bad rap. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 This book doesn't talk patterns, it talks principals, everything else you read is just fluff ;-)
Thanks Jacob, that was exactly my point.]]> Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:45:01 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:45:01 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:45:01 -0500 Dec 7, 2004 Rashid Jilani 0 Patterns get a bad rap. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:30:18 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:30:18 -0500 Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:30:18 -0500 Dec 7, 2004 hookomjj 1 Patterns get a bad rap. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 You sound like someone who doesn't really understand the value of patterns (or even how to use them properly).
Thanks for the complimants Bill...

After so many years the only concrete lesson that I tout to undersatnd...]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:44:06 -0500 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:44:06 -0500 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 21:44:06 -0500 Dec 6, 2004 Rashid Jilani 4 Patterns get a bad rap. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354
I am kind of against the heavy use of design patterns; first and the most becuase it makes your code very hard to understand, and ultimatley (it is ironic) so hard to maintain.

Heavy use of anything is usually a bad thing....]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:24:15 -0500 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:24:15 -0500 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:24:15 -0500 Dec 6, 2004 Bill Willis 5 lazy developers http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354
"Now it's kind of funny that they give me a title of Architect because I spent so many years trying to explain why we don't need them and now I are one."Not funny, more like a bit hypocritical."
Please...]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:01:59 -0500 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:01:59 -0500 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:01:59 -0500 Dec 6, 2004 peter lin 0 Ward Cunningham, architect http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30354 "Now it's kind of funny that they give me a title of Architect because I spent so many years trying to explain why we don't need them and now I are one."

Not funny, more like a bit hypocritical."
Please...]]> Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:37:47 -0500 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:37:47 -0500 Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:37:47 -0500 Dec 6, 2004 Marlon Smith 1