Support Forums: Message List - Sun warms to Dynamic Languages: Summit Held http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 23:24:05 -0400 also Rulesharp http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:35:43 -0500 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:35:43 -0500 Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:35:43 -0500 Feb 15, 2007 Randy B 0 Re: No need for such a mess http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 Ask them if they find good documentation (in general) for java projects. Ask your junior programmer to code a Web service, to create a swing GUI faster than a VB programmer for a simple task...
With the right Java IDE they...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:33:42 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:33:42 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:33:42 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Mark N 0 One Feature that may take Java much ahead of what it is now http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 I would recommend one feature which could help java (I am talking of envrionment not the language)to ship some other fields. Java provide System and Runtime components to run any command level operation (e.g. .exe files, .dll etc). I have...]]> Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:09:56 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:09:56 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:09:56 -0500 Dec 13, 2004 rajeev tiwari 0 PHP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 Personally I look, longingly, over the fence at the PHP community. They have an incredible number of high-quality applications ready to install (groupware, forums, CMS). Comparatively the Java community hasn't offered much much than...]]> Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:07:22 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:07:22 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:07:22 -0500 Dec 13, 2004 Mark N 0 PHP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:01:06 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:01:06 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:01:06 -0500 Dec 13, 2004 analog boy 2 oops, error on my part http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462
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Errors due to brain (my brain that is) on vacation are common place :)]]> Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:54:01 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:54:01 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:54:01 -0500 Dec 13, 2004 peter lin 3 No need for such a mess - what a load of rubbish http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 .Net is attractive to people, because it is simple, even a crappy programmer can feel great, a perl programmer can take advantage of .Net features such as web forms, etc... without learning too much. A vb, asp programmer switch to .Net...]]> Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:45:05 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:45:05 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:45:05 -0500 Dec 13, 2004 Stuart Ervine 0 JRules, JESS & DROOLS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:05:05 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:05:05 -0500 Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:05:05 -0500 Dec 13, 2004 Daniel Selman 4 Win32 Knowledge with set you free... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 I think all to often the issue is that many people that come to .Net either come from a non-MS platforms and know very little about Windows. Or, they come from a VB background and know very little about Windows.I'd bet that people that come...]]> Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:50:27 -0500 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:50:27 -0500 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:50:27 -0500 Dec 12, 2004 Rashid Jilani 0 Win32 Knowledge with set you free... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 I don't find these kind of issues in Java world, becuase things are quite clear and well explained and almost all of the specifications are public.
I think Java is a completely different beast in this respect. Java is meant...]]> Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:26:01 -0500 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:26:01 -0500 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:26:01 -0500 Dec 12, 2004 Clark Pacheco 1 No need for such a mess http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 And when something goes haywire in .Net/VS.Net/IIS/... have fun trying to get a good answer.
I couldn't agree more. This is the biggest frustation I found my self in .NET or MS environemnt. I mean once you stuck some where...]]> Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:03:20 -0500 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:03:20 -0500 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:03:20 -0500 Dec 12, 2004 Rashid Jilani 2 JVM is for Java http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 I have one simple request for Sun: Keep Java Virtual Machine for Java language only and not waste time on scripting languages.
Oh, yes. That is wonderful idea. I fully agree. We should absolutely freeze Java and never...]]> Sun, 12 Dec 2004 02:23:02 -0500 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 02:23:02 -0500 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 02:23:02 -0500 Dec 12, 2004 Phillip Wayne 0 Re: No need for such a mess http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462
.Net is attractive to people, because it is simple, even a crappy programmer can feel great, a perl programmer can take advantage of .Net features such as web forms, etc..
VS.Net is simple (well, not always). .Net is...]]> Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:36:52 -0500 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:36:52 -0500 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:36:52 -0500 Dec 11, 2004 Vincent Cobra 1 Re: JVM is for Java (Completly disagree) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 I have one simple request for Sun: Keep Java Virtual Machine for Java language only and not waste time on scripting languages.
 I can just disagree. Java language (and .Net C#) are "OLD" languajes that...]]> Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:01:30 -0500 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:01:30 -0500 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:01:30 -0500 Dec 11, 2004 Enrique Ariz?n Benito 0 AppDomains and Isolates http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30462 http://bitser.net/isolate-interest/

It was ment to be done in Tiger, but Sun kinda dropped the ball. Now it seems...]]> Sat, 11 Dec 2004 07:49:10 -0500 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 07:49:10 -0500 Sat, 11 Dec 2004 07:49:10 -0500 Dec 11, 2004 pero peric 0