Support Forums: Message List - Opinion: What is the business case for ESB? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 05:25:05 -0400 ESB as EAI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 As usual it depends.  We're looking at ESB as an EAI solution to replace tons of custom plumbing we've written.  The business case is fairly clear.  We're not looking at all the BPM stuff because our organisation would need to change...]]> Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:53:30 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:53:30 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:53:30 -0400 Oct 25, 2012 rmorschel 0 ESB as a stovepipe http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 Also, Radovan Janecek has a good blog that has been addressing this issue for awhile:http://www.radovanjanecek.net/blog/
Radovan's "Bus Stop" article...]]> Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:22:00 -0500 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:22:00 -0500 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:22:00 -0500 Dec 16, 2004 Brian Miller 0 Opinion: What is the business case for ESB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:33:05 -0500 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:33:05 -0500 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:33:05 -0500 Dec 16, 2004 Bijan Mohanty 0 ESB as a stovepipe http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:48:08 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:48:08 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:48:08 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 traceroute 0 Opinion: What is the business case for ESB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 There definitely is a business case for using ESBs for integration. Enterprise architects will soon realize (I have) that point-to-point application integration will lead to an uncontrollable mess.The business case for building an ESB from...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:43:54 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:43:54 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:43:54 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Ross Mason 1 ESB as a stovepipe http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 Oliver,    Check out this article:http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00073.htmlAlso, Radovan Janecek has a good blog...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:32:45 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:32:45 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:32:45 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Ross Mason 1 SOA Model and ESB implementation http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536
It's important to note, ESB should be considered as a true implementation of the ideas and concepts behind SOA's archiecture model.
IMO - This is only true if you make the assertion that SOA architecture always equals...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:26:26 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:26:26 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:26:26 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Ross Mason 0 ESB as a stovepipe http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536
    Check out this article:

http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00073.html

Also, Radovan Janecek has a good blog that...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:54:05 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:54:05 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:54:05 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 traceroute 3 Opinion: What is the business case for ESB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536
The business case for building an ESB from...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:31:56 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:31:56 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:31:56 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 abhishek balaria 2 ESB as service repository / choreography http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536
I agree with you that ESB is more than just a repository but is also Orchestration/Workflow services as well. And there is a business case in there as well - self-documented processes. My point is that what most CIOs would...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:20:06 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:20:06 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:20:06 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Brian Repko 0 Opinion: What is the business case for ESB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 Seems pretty clear from what has been said here that there is no consensus decision on what an ESB actually is.Blame Gartner.
Sort of... And this is part of the point of ESBi (the ESB initiative). Unlike other areas (eg...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:44:51 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:44:51 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:44:51 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Francois Letellier 0 Opinion: What is the business case for ESB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536
Blame Gartner.]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:14:24 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:14:24 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 05:14:24 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Jason Roberts 1 Writing JBI services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:22:59 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:22:59 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 04:22:59 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Oliver Kamps 0 ESB as a communication highway of SOA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 I perceive SOA as an enterprise architecture in which the boundaries between
different security and application domains are clearly defined in a technology
independent manner. SOA...]]> Wed, 15 Dec 2004 03:53:31 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 03:53:31 -0500 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 03:53:31 -0500 Dec 15, 2004 Cetin Karakus 0 SOA here, SOA there, SOA everywhere leads to SOL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=30536 The business case for ESB is that as teams develop their software using SOA that you don't want to end up with "service silos" just as we have "data silos" currently. In this sense, ESB is, for me, more of a service...]]> Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:00:12 -0500 Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:00:12 -0500 Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:00:12 -0500 Dec 14, 2004 ramesh loganathan 2