Support Forums: Message List - JSF in Chains http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 08:43:53 -0400 JSF / .NET http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:19:06 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:19:06 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:19:06 -0500 Jan 13, 2005 analog boy 0 JSF / .NET http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 Jason & Calen,How do you define a bean to work on, like a managed bean in jsf, with webwork. I understand how it can work on beans in one of the three standard contexts, but how can you get it to create an object of a given type to...]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:56:49 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:56:49 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:56:49 -0500 Jan 13, 2005 Jason Carreira 1 PHP vs JSP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 >However, systems like JSF save even more time, because of >converters and validators - these can save huge amounts >of code. Actually there are even more convertors and validators in PHP ;-)Dmitry
Not built in as...]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:13 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:13 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:21:13 -0500 Jan 13, 2005 Steve Zara 0 PHP vs JSP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 However, systems like JSF save even more time, because of
>converters and validators - these can save huge amounts
>of code.
Actually there are even more convertors and validators in PHP ;-)

Dmitry]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:47:40 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:47:40 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:47:40 -0500 Jan 13, 2005 Dmitry Namiot 1 JSF / .NET http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030
How do you define a bean to work on, like a managed bean in jsf, with webwork. I understand how it can work on beans in one of the three standard contexts, but how can you get it to create an object of a given type to populate a...]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:54:14 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:54:14 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:54:14 -0500 Jan 13, 2005 analog boy 2 JSF / .NET http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030
i don't think jsf is good enough on its own, it still needs to be...]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:49:41 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:49:41 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:49:41 -0500 Jan 13, 2005 analog boy 0 PHP vs JSP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030
So you want your organization to be profitalbe and not risk a career on a dizaster and have to sue the vendors.You HAVE to select LAMP!

Well, if anyone told me I...]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:41:53 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:41:53 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:41:53 -0500 Jan 13, 2005 Steve Zara 2 JSF / .NET http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 I think that virtually all the current frameworks are missing one essential element and thats hydrating objects when dealing with a web client. IMO, there needs to be a layer that deals solely with accepting values from the client and...]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:16:53 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:16:53 -0500 Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:16:53 -0500 Jan 13, 2005 Jason Carreira 3 PHP vs JSP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030
I will try to explain why most should use PHP for a DHTML application. Lets say you are a tech lead, and the gig is to write one of:
1. CMS Portal
2. eCommerce
3. eLeraning
4. Forums
5. XYZ

As a good tech lead you...]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:24:55 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:24:55 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:24:55 -0500 Jan 12, 2005 Vic Cekvenich 3 object-hydration/dehydration framework http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 I think that virtually all the current frameworks are missing one essential element and thats hydrating objects when dealing with a web client. IMO, there needs to be a layer that deals solely with accepting values from the client and...]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:02:26 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:02:26 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:02:26 -0500 Jan 12, 2005 Calen Legaspi 0 JSF / .NET http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 JSF could do the job, but it is too complicated for the role, it is a heavy price to pay.
Sorry if I am asking an obvious question (I am relatively new to web GUI coding), but why do you say JSF is complicated, and a heavy...]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:51:12 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:51:12 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:51:12 -0500 Jan 12, 2005 Steve Zara 1 PHP Comments http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 If you still have to do DHTML apps ... and you do not
>start with PHP, you are doing your client a dis-service.

Still cannot get: why do not use DHTML with JSP? What is wrong in using DHTML in JSP? Or what are...]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:12:34 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:12:34 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:12:34 -0500 Jan 12, 2005 Dmitry Namiot 4 JSF / .NET http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:06:37 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:06:37 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:06:37 -0500 Jan 12, 2005 analog boy 7 PHP Comments http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 2. Why would you think that PHP is harder to maintain than JSF?
Because by default PHP mingles UI code with business logic. JSF has a clean and simple separation of these.
Have you see the code JSF UI...]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:52:12 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:52:12 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:52:12 -0500 Jan 12, 2005 Steve Zara 0 PHP/JAVA/.NET http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31030 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:31:43 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:31:43 -0500 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:31:43 -0500 Jan 12, 2005 Michael Dubakov 0