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        <title>Paranoid I understand</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Lots of troubles without improving sequrity  bit,  even making things less secure because all kind of stuff creeping through port 80.</blockquote><br>I've used the web edition of TurboTax for years.  It's a fundamental misunderstanding to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 14:03:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 6, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
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        <title>Paranoid I understand</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>As stated in Schneider's article linked above, you need a whole range of ports to fully use DCOM, CORBA or RMI through a firewall.</blockquote>Sun's JRE automatically tunnels RMI through port 80.  Of course for SOAP and RMI this...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 21:33:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 5, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
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        <title>Paranoid I understand</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>As stated in Schneider's article linked above, you need a whole range of ports to fully use DCOM, CORBA or RMI through a firewall.</blockquote><br>Sun's JRE automatically tunnels RMI through port 80.  Of course for SOAP and RMI this isn't...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:37:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:37:22 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 5, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Miller</jf:author>
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        <title>no firewalls for soap???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>WS can use object oriented protocol and XML, so it is cool and easy-of-use by definition. CORBA stuff is very complex because you need to configure evil firewall (probably on some very complex legacy UNIX box). IDL is evil too, it is not...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:00:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:00:53 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 5, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sudhir Srinivasan</jf:author>
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        <title>SOA has nothing to do with Webservices</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Exactly. This is what describe in this article<br><br>&quot;Most developers often think web services and SOA are synonymous. Many also think it's not possible to build service-oriented applications without using web services. To clarify, SOA is a design...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:08:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Debu Panda</jf:author>
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        <title>not easy, but not brain surgery</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It's probably just me, but configuring cisco or software firewall isn't necessarily easy, but for a trained sys admin or network admin, it should be straight forward.<br><br>If you're talking about something like checkpoint, an experience sys admin...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:34:05 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
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        <title>This was the SOA model back in 2001.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The ESB is still up for debate. See <a href="http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00073.html" target="_blank">http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00073.html</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:19:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>traceroute</jf:author>
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        <title>This was the SOA model back in 2001.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) is now the model for SOA, not the classic model back in 2001.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:07:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>zqudlyba navis</jf:author>
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        <title>BPEL project complexity</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Simple things are easy, but when working with more complex structures it gets more difficult.</blockquote><br>It would be great if you will provide further description of the simple vs complex structures you mention. What is...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:44:36 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Samuel Ballew</jf:author>
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        <title>Corba is Dead</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Now that's a deep, well-researched oppinion. We should get more of these. Then we could rename this to theslashdotside.com.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:42:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 1, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Radu-Adrian Popescu</jf:author>
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        <title>maybe dumb admins?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>...it sounds like you are preaching to the choir here. </blockquote>There are plenty of readers and I am positive that not all of them are joined the chorus :)</blockquote>WS can use object oriented protocol and XML, so it is cool...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:38:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juozas Baliuka</jf:author>
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        <title>Paranoid I understand</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't really understand the notion of doing everything over http and port 80 because the admin isn't willing to do his job and configure the network appropriately.</blockquote><br>As stated in Schneider's article linked above, you need a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:27:51 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paolo Guccione</jf:author>
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        <title>Paranoid I understand</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have plenty of admin friends who are paranoid about security and require people to use ssh or vpn to port forward. In cases where we really need to open up a port,  the reasonable approach is to explicity block all ports and IP's that are not allowed...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:58:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
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        <title>maybe dumb admins?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...it sounds like you are preaching to the choir here. </blockquote>There are plenty of readers and I am positive that not all of them are joined the chorus :)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:50:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
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        <title>maybe dumb admins?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31470</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think you've got a good point and it sounds like you are preaching to the choir here. In government installations I have worked where classified material exists I would probably replace &quot;lazy or dumb&quot; with &quot;paranoid&quot;. Possibly this...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:18:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 31, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>traceroute</jf:author>
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