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        <title>Whats JVM and Solaris written in</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[As far as I know, the JVM and Solaris themselves are written in C++. Leaving out languages like C/C++ is not possible, when the aim of .Net framework is to allow language independent code. Is James Gosling implying that including C++ is a security hole....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:58:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 16, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>satish motwani</jf:author>
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        <title>most of us</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Most of us would rather put you away.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:48:36 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andy Stefancik</jf:author>
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        <title>competition absent</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>MS advances sometimes faster sometimes slower, but is never influenced by competition, because there aren&#x2019;t any.RegardsRolf Tollerud</blockquote><br>I am so impressed Rolf.  You know more than Bill Gates!<br><br>Bill...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:26:17 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:26:17 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>competition absent</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I propose we let Rolf get the last say in this thread, in order to preserve some of his self-confidence.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:35:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:35:50 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>competition absent</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[San Juan,<br><br>As I said before you are confusing cause and action, every situation needs to be examined in detail. Precisely as the first shift was caused by the Web, and not by the quality of the competition, the stabilization of Microsoft is caused...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:04:00 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:04:00 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:04:00 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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        <title>R.I.P. Microsoft</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Like I said, the writing is on the wall....in fact, as i pointed out, the slow relative decline of MSFT has already progressed quite a bit:<br><br><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Business/SiliconInsider/story?id=88655&page=1"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:54:13 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>a san juan</jf:author>
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        <title>+1</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't believe that Rolf has ever spoken to any of the day to day programmers in the Microsoft ranks, but gets the bulk of his information from marketing materials and glowing reviews of the environment from Redmond lifers.<br><br>My friends who are...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:23:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Elaine Brownson</jf:author>
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        <title>the coolest, most well-funded university on earth</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It is not wise of you to continue this thread!<br><br>The Sun/Unix/Java camp accuse MS of takings FUD, talk about throwing stones in a glasshouse. :)<br><br>1) MS has the best culture, in short &quot;the developer is the king&quot;. Opposite to for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:33:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:33:16 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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        <title>another professional opinion</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Stross has a different explanation for Microsoft's success: Gates's strategy of hiring only the smartest software developers ..</blockquote><br>Absolutely delusional:<br><a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2005/01/27.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:59:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>not like normal companies</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have a much shorter explanation for MS' success:<br><br>1) It has a monopoly on desktop OS.<br><br>Give me a monopoly, and I will get successful, no matter what.<br><br>If MS actually had the best developers, we wouldn't have had VB or this much virii...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:35:05 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>more common than one would expect</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>with larger companies, often this happens. Most of it is driven from the top by politics. Take firms like the top 10 financial firms, there are so many groups and divisions that there's a ton of duplication in effort. I don't know if this is...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:26:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>not like normal companies</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am no expert on MS inner workings but I have no reason to doubt Stross observations, which I also heard from many other sources. Let us just suppose for the sake of argument that it is true.<br><br>1) Hiring only the smartest software developers (as...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:33:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:33:12 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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        <title>Wall St obviously knows more than you do</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[San Juan,<br><br>&quot;open source provides products that are cheaper and as robust or more robust than commercial products&quot;<br><br>No. Open source products are unbelievable shit IMO. Every year is proclaimed as &quot;the year of Linux&quot;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:19:00 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rolf Tollerud</jf:author>
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        <title>another professional opinion</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Stross has a different explanation for Microsoft's success: Gates's strategy of hiring only the smartest software developers, keeping their allegiance with lucrative stock options, fostering an egalitarian creative atmosphere and perpetuating...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:06:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
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        <title>Rolf, Rolf, Rolf - Wall St obviously knows more than you do</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31643</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;As MS just has emerged victorious from the most deadly challenge ever, (the web appearing &quot;overnight&quot;) according to Toynbee, it should now be at its strongest ever.&quot;<br><br>Hey Rolf:<br><br>Everything changes....stockholders know...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 19:00:24 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>a san juan</jf:author>
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