http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 18 May 2013 06:36:02 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703 So, what tools does each framework provide in order to help developers "see"?In particular I'd like to know what frameworks have tools for:1) static visualization of the application structure2) dynamic visualization of what happens...]]> Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:03:56 -0500 Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:03:56 -0500 Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:03:56 -0500 Feb 14, 2005 Mik Kersten 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703 Spring supports Annotations as well (in the Java code). It has for a while.Nick, I expect there to be some small nits. Fundamentally, I am very excited about the article series.Kudos!
I want to clarify what it means for an AOP...]]> Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:49:37 -0500 Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:49:37 -0500 Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:49:37 -0500 Feb 14, 2005 Mik Kersten 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703
As has been noted almost every time AOP comes up the extreme level of fragmentation of code (aka "modularization of...]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:17:09 -0500 Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:17:09 -0500 Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:17:09 -0500 Feb 12, 2005 Rickard Oberg 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703

Nick, I expect there to be some small nits. Fundamentally, I am very excited about the article series.

Kudos!]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:05:24 -0500 Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:05:24 -0500 Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:05:24 -0500 Feb 12, 2005 Rick Hightower 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703
Spring does not support the annotation style of *declaring aspects* and instead uses the XML style. So in Spring you declare your pointcuts in XML, and not in an annotation on a Java member that corresponds to a pointcut. That's not...]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:30:06 -0500 Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:30:06 -0500 Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:30:06 -0500 Feb 11, 2005 Mik Kersten 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703
According to your article, Spring AOP does not support annotation style.

But on page 222 of Rod Johnson's "J2EE Development without EJB", he discussed about source-level metadata annotation and presented a Spring...]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:32:56 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:32:56 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:32:56 -0500 Feb 10, 2005 George Jiang 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703
* "with this approach, only objects retrieved from the Spring framework can be advised and that the use of an interface is required". This is simply a bug resulting from an edit, and a sentence about the...]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:48:51 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:48:51 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:48:51 -0500 Feb 10, 2005 Mik Kersten 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:58:41 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:58:41 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:58:41 -0500 Feb 10, 2005 Nicholas Lesiecki 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703
Under Spring it only lists Regular Expression pointcut expressions. Spring does much more than this. In fact, you can write custom PointCuts. You can even write Dynamic...]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:49:47 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:49:47 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:49:47 -0500 Feb 10, 2005 Rick Hightower 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703
Regarding: "Note that with this approach, only objects retrieved from the Spring framework can be advised and that the use of an interface is...]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:39:37 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:39:37 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:39:37 -0500 Feb 10, 2005 Rick Hightower 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703
I have a fear that annotations has the potential to hurt re-use - why does no one care about this?

On another note, I think spring has an opportunity to become an early leader in this space as it is not as intrusive...]]> Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:19:30 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:19:30 -0500 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 02:19:30 -0500 Feb 10, 2005 Hugh Madden 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703
* Spring AOP can be used with full target classes too, using CGLIB proxies instead of JDK dynamic proxies. This will automatically kick if no...]]> Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:09:29 -0500 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:09:29 -0500 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 18:09:29 -0500 Feb 9, 2005 Juergen Hoeller 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:27:33 -0500 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:27:33 -0500 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:27:33 -0500 Feb 9, 2005 Drew McAuliffe 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703 I don't see how that is. Just because I've learned how to type brackets and slashes, I don't see how that makes someone's made-up XML more familiar to me than Java with a couple extensions.
Well, I agree. But over the years,...]]> Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:52:27 -0500 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:52:27 -0500 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:52:27 -0500 Feb 9, 2005 Nicholas Lesiecki 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31703 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:14:55 -0500 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:14:55 -0500 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:14:55 -0500 Feb 9, 2005 Bill Burke 0