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        <title>Stateless also refers to clusters that handle state correctly...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Those architects including myself may be refering to an application being stateless if it handles its own state correctly, i.e. It manages its state with a persistent shared memory store or clustered backend database. Then the architect does not need to...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Stateful or stateless</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31852</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;Yes you will get great scalability and have very few deployment issues if you use only stateless beans, but what will you lose? If your application needs state, it needs state. You'll end up storing the state somewhere else where it might be much...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Sivan Kievit</jf:author>
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        <title>stateful or stateless</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31852</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[A lot of architects preach statelessness as the ultimate solution to scalability. I think this is a little bit like preaching the use of C as the ultimate solution to performance.<br><br>Yes you will get great scalability and have very few deployment...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:37:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Frank LaRosa</jf:author>
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        <title>stateful or stateless</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31852</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I mean Session Conversation not Session Conversion. Application Server provides new SLSB for every request. Since they do not maintain any state information they should easily suffice the need of load balancing. Using this SLSB Facade (Session )invoke...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:48:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vee Gee</jf:author>
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        <title>please elaborate</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[&quot; SLSB for Session Conversion which will support the load balancing while SFSB to handle your business and persistency needs. &quot;<br>Can you elaborate on this or point to any useful web resource in this regard? <br>-Thanks]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:04:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>P I</jf:author>
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        <title>oo</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31852</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If your requirement is invisibility of the exact server machine, this is not incompatible with storing state.<br><br>Software or hardware routers combined with a service performing replication of state across a cluster allow will load balancing for a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:06:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>adrian osullivan</jf:author>
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        <title>stateful or stateless</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31852</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Why should they be mutually exclusive ?. A hybrid of SLSB and SFSB should be good enough unless you want to completely choose one for other. SLSB for Session Conversion which will support the load balancing while SFSB to handle your business and...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Vee Gee</jf:author>
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        <title>stateful or stateless</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31852</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi,<br><br>I am trying to arctitect a web app which will be running on websphere. <br><br>One of the *features or requirement* is being stateless - one argument in favor of being stateless is - for easier load balancing as then request can go to any...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:19:06 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>P I</jf:author>
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