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        <title>Alternative MDA-Tool</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In my opinion the most flexible MDA tool on the market is ArcStyler. Customizable for your projects needs with regard to transformations (m2c, m2m) and plugin in your own little gimmicks. I think this is important, since a project is never a standard...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:28:49 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:28:49 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:28:49 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 25, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steffen Glomb</jf:author>
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        <title>Alternative</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes, IMO, AndroMDA and ArchitectureWare are using almost the same concept... <br>- Both are specialized in Model-to-Code/Model-to-Text transformation.<br>- Both products have its own advantages.<br><br>Would be surely the best way if they can join and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:08:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:08:34 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:08:34 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 23, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
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        <title>Alternative</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>[...]<br><br>2. AndroMDA for the transformation Model-to-Code/Model-to-Text -&gt; Open Source. [...]</blockquote><br>Not to forget the open architectureware generator framework, available at SourceForge (<a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 03:28:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 03:28:01 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 03:28:01 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 23, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dirk Ludwig</jf:author>
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        <title>Downloads</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi , im very CURIOUS to check this out.How much time it will took until you review a evaluation reques and send it a response ?I ask for an evaluation download but still there is no response.</blockquote><br>Masoud, <br><br>The download for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:35:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:35:22 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:35:22 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Burba</jf:author>
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        <title>Developer Edition - $2200?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi , im very CURIOUS to check this out.<br>How much time it will took until you review a evaluation reques and send it a response ?<br>I ask for an evaluation download but still there is no response.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:11:05 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:11:05 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:11:05 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Masoud kalali</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Alternative</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;clinton&gt;<br>What's the minimun cost to get started? Can you suggest a cheaper alternative to CompuWare?<br>&lt;/clinton&gt;<br><br>You can use following tools:<br>1. UML tool: MagicDraw (not so expensive, Standard is enough for 500$) or...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:29:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:29:22 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:29:22 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Does this work as advertized ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Just FYI: Mike's answer to the widget question is more accurate.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:43:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:43:21 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:43:21 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Murphree</jf:author>
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        <title>Does this work as advertized ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>1) Can I build n tier Application ? </blockquote>Yes (default application structure is 3-tier).<br><blockquote>Say I want to build  a CMS solution , can I spend a month or two and have this working using your tool ?</blockquote>That depends...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:35:05 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:35:05 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Murphree</jf:author>
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        <title>Does this work as advertized ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>1) Can I build n tier Application ? Say I want to build  a CMS solution , can I spend a month or two and have this working using your tool ?</blockquote>Yes.  OptimalJ includes transformations for an n-tier architecture...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:26:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:26:50 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Burba</jf:author>
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        <title>Does this work as advertized ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[1) Can I build n tier Application ? Say I want to build  a CMS solution , can I spend a month or two and have this working using your tool ?<br><br>2) Say I want to integrate the said CMS with an existing solution, can this software read in existing APIs...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:24:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:24:35 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>bad mASH</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Starting costs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>What's the minimun cost to get started?</blockquote>That varies widely by the type of project you're using the product on...but to do a model-driven development project, you need at least a copy of OptimalJ Professional Edition (OJPE).  OJPE...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:15:58 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:15:58 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:15:58 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Burba</jf:author>
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        <title>Not zero sum</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>If you consider developers an asset (like I do) then yes, I would consider it very expensive!<br>Cheers,Clinton</blockquote><br>I think that this oversimplifies things a bit.  This is not a zero-sum game.  When you decrease the cost of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:05:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:05:25 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:05:25 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Burba</jf:author>
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        <title>MDA bootstrapping</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Greetings Clinton,<br><br>The answer to your question is &quot;Yes&quot; we did use MDA techniques to build portions of OptimalJ's various editions.  Naturally we didn't use MDA to build the whole thing, but a fair bit of the underlying infrastructure of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:56:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:56:37 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:56:37 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Murphree</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Developer Edition - $2200?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Clinton, try it out on a project, and let me know if you think it delivers that much value...Mike BurbaCompuware</blockquote><br>What's the minimun cost to get started?  Can you suggest a cheaper alternative to CompuWare?<br><br>PS:  Were you...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:08:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:08:27 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:08:27 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Clinton Begin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>6</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>thinking in the MDA way</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31948</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>if a tool can save you several developers when you expand your business, do you still think it is &quot;expensive&quot;?-Han</blockquote><br>If you consider developers an asset (like I do) then yes, I would consider it very...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:06:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:06:38 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Clinton Begin</jf:author>
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