Support Forums: Message List - Sun lays off software employees http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 18:23:47 -0400 Why I think p-langs kick ass: http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 .V]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:23:56 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:23:56 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:23:56 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Vic Cekvenich 0 Why I think p-langs kick ass: http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 Here is a list of PHP Applications and some of them have thousands of reference sites. Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:29:24 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:29:24 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 19:29:24 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Matt Giacomini 1 Why I think p-langs kick ass: http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 to suggest that PHP is "kicking ass" over Java?
Here is a list of PHP Applications and some of them have thousands of reference sites. Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:18:53 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:18:53 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:18:53 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Vic Cekvenich 2 Java w/o Client/Desktop side http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 On server side, PHP et all is kicking ass..V
Really? I would say PHP has kicked Perls ass, but I don't see the impact on Java. I started by programing in Perl and Java. Almost all the old Perl shops that I used to work...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:13:17 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:13:17 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:13:17 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Matt Giacomini 3 Java w/o Client/Desktop side http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 I think Java has a bright future weather applets (and JNLP/WebStart) continue to fail or not.
Without Client/Desktop "side", Java is dead!

If a tree falls and no one hears it.... we would not know there is...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:18:42 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:18:42 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:18:42 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Vic Cekvenich 4 In a way I agree with Vic http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048
You'll say...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:08:01 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:08:01 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:08:01 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Henrique Steckelberg 0 In a way I agree with Vic http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 I think the future is pretty bright for Java.
I totally agree! I think Java has a bright future weather applets continue to fail or not.

I'm not sure if I see your point on Microsoft affecting the JVM performance....]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:59:33 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:59:33 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:59:33 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Matt Giacomini 5 In a way I agree with Vic http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 > I do not know of even one major internet service that is based on Java Applets
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. When Java first appeared both Microsoft and Netscape did their nwn JVM rather than licensing a plugin from...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:37:21 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:37:21 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:37:21 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Fred Bloggs 6 In a way I agree with Vic http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 > I do not know of even one major internet service that is based on Java Appletshttp://www.map24.com/Which other technology could pull that off?
I have a 5mb Cable Modem...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:33:59 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:33:59 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:33:59 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Matt Giacomini 1 In a way I agree with Vic http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 I do not know of even one major internet service that is based on Java Applets

http://www.map24.com/

Which other technology could pull that off?]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:08:54 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:08:54 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:08:54 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 johnyzee 9 bug is with the other platforms not Java http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 sun bug report
I filled a bug report separatley. In Jan. Sun changed it from bug to RFE!

.V]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:07:25 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:07:25 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:07:25 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Vic Cekvenich 0 bug is with the other platforms not Java http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 As a security aware programmer ...
Are you implying superioirty or implying that programers are not security aware?

Why not tone down the wording, they already know that I was identified and certified, and that I...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:04:54 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:04:54 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:04:54 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Vic Cekvenich 0 Or even something else (Prague) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 Do you believe that outsourcing is always done to achieve quality?Would you oppose it if you were a developer asked to train an offshore programmer to perform you role knowing you would subsequently be fired?Would you agree that maybe some of...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:55:15 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:55:15 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:55:15 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Joe M. 0 I like Java and deployment. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 JJ, are you w/ Sun?Do we have courage to try to help fix Java and make it more competitive? (this would help Sun! Execs said it's their strategy and we the users agree, so work from top and bottom)
No I am not with Sun as I...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:48:48 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:48:48 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:48:48 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 Joe M. 0 Or even something else (Prague) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32048 <quote>Outsourcing isn't something you should oppose..<quote/>
Do you believe that...]]> Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:05:05 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:05:05 -0500 Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:05:05 -0500 Feb 25, 2005 paul sinnott 1