Remi, do not forget that tools do all the work for you now. Last month one of my juniors was rejected as a consultant because he told the interviewer that yes, he did use SOAP with PHP,...]]> Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:21:59 -0400 Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:21:59 -0400 Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:21:59 -0400 Apr 7, 2005 Remi Vankeisbelck 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320

It's only when we try and invent generalized object semantics and try to automagically remote objects without having well-understood behaviour & boundaries, that the problem gets complex.

I don't see it...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:45:11 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:45:11 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:45:11 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Paolo Guccione 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320

C'mon Remi, what's so hard about all of this?

Nothing...

If we stick to the known usecases, setup some kind of conversational context for...]]> Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:07:16 -0400 Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:07:16 -0400 Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:07:16 -0400 Apr 4, 2005 Remi Vankeisbelck 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320
If we stick to the known usecases, setup some kind of conversational context for security/ transactionality, surely we can implement a few data queries and update methods to fulfill that...]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:10:12 -0500 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:10:12 -0500 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:10:12 -0500 Mar 23, 2005 Thomas Whitmore 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320

on the Internet using a URL yelds more performance than using a IOR.

More performance through URLs ???URLs are bound to HTTP AFAIK... Internet's about IPs and ports remember ?I think I'm totally lost !...]]> Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:13:50 -0500 Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:13:50 -0500 Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:13:50 -0500 Mar 15, 2005 Ferhat SAVCI 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320 The purpose of Web services is interoperability. If you start diverting from the current standards you will spoil the whole meaning of Web services.

So, the SOAP (and WSDL and UDDI and maybe SSDL and whatnot) standard makes...]]> Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:09:31 -0500 Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:09:31 -0500 Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:09:31 -0500 Mar 15, 2005 Ferhat SAVCI 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320
The catch is: new functions and bug-fixes appear in the SOAP API a long time after they appear in the REST API. If I remember correctly, in an InformationWeek interview, Jeff Barr gave the reason for this as...]]> Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:41:47 -0500 Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:41:47 -0500 Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:41:47 -0500 Mar 15, 2005 Ferhat SAVCI 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320
...The over-simplistic idea that simplifying computer science is a good thing, just is not panning out. There are problems that can be simplified, and there are problems that can...]]> Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:58:46 -0500 Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:58:46 -0500 Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:58:46 -0500 Mar 14, 2005 Thomas Kast 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320
-- Ernst de Haan]]> Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:19:00 -0500 Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:19:00 -0500 Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:19:00 -0500 Mar 10, 2005 Ernst de Haan 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32320 XML is a very useful technology for representing heirachical polymorphic data [...] there are other formats but none are as arbitrarily readable by human _and_ machine as XML.

The XML format of data handles, in a simple but powerful way, encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism.