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Ruby Developers must be the most smug community on the Internet.

Get over yourselves.

Fact: Neither platform is perfect for everything.]]> Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:13:45 -0500 Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:13:45 -0500 Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:13:45 -0500 Mar 20, 2006 Chaz Man 0 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
Ruby is a scripting language. No matter how OOP it is, it was intended for small tasks.
Wrong. Debasing a language via "it's only a scripting language", is also ridiculous, and ignorant
Well,...]]> Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:27:15 -0500 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:27:15 -0500 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:27:15 -0500 Mar 26, 2005 Steve Zara 0 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
Claiming that Ruby == Java is ridiculous.
Ruby is a scripting language. No matter how OOP it is, it was intended for small...]]> Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:06:22 -0500 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:06:22 -0500 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:06:22 -0500 Mar 25, 2005 sloppyseconds 1 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
Neither would I. I'm just after the avoidance of hype (e.g. 'Ruby on Rails can do everything that J2EE can').
Ok, I exaggerated. You know, I wonder how much work it would take to reimplement...]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:22:13 -0500 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:22:13 -0500 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:22:13 -0500 Mar 23, 2005 Steve Zara 0 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
Easy. The scripting site was fine before this particular logic was added. When the logic was added, it brought down the site. The change to the website that caused the problem was clear. When functionally equivalent Java was used...]]> Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:20:57 -0500 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:20:57 -0500 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:20:57 -0500 Mar 23, 2005 Steve Zara 0 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723 Easy. The scripting site was fine before this particular logic was added. When the logic was added, it brought down the site. The change to the website that caused the problem was clear. When functionally equivalent Java was used instead (at...]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:16:08 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:16:08 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:16:08 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Cameron Zemek 1 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
Neither would I. I'm just after the avoidance of hype (e.g. 'Ruby on Rails can do everything that J2EE can').
Ok, I exaggerated. You know, I wonder how much work it would take to reimplement some J2EE...]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:42:38 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:42:38 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:42:38 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Mark N 1 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
Neither would I. I'm just after the avoidance of hype (e.g. 'Ruby on Rails can do everything that J2EE can').

Ok, I exaggerated. You know, I wonder how much work it would take to reimplement some J2EE...]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:31:47 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:31:47 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:31:47 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Cameron Purdy 2 I can't believe the bickering! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723 Actually, Amazon use Perl for their new development, and Google has a lot of Python.

"Actually" Amazon uses lots of different things, including Java.

You can't find big companies that stick to one clean...]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:14:51 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:14:51 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:14:51 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Cameron Purdy 0 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723 Neither would I. I'm just after the avoidance of hype (e.g. 'Ruby on Rails can do everything that J2EE can').

Ok, I exaggerated. You know, I wonder how much work it would take to reimplement some J2EE specifications in Ruby....]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:40 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:40 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:10:40 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Hernani Mota 3 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723 The question with Rails is, is it performant enough? Well I don't know the answer to that. But I do know a lot of sites are using Perl, PHP and Python (with Plone and Zope). And so I would not be surprised if Rails could be used for lots of...]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:49:44 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:49:44 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:49:44 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Steve Zara 6 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
Here is the first one I came to. Google for more.
http://sys-con.com/story/?storyid=43774&DE=1]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:37:17 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:37:17 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:37:17 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Mark N 0 stones http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
Amazing, a java person actually advocating java! In public too! No doubt the deluge of unemployable ruby adolescents will come out swinging, but still, nice to see SOME java developers don't mind java.
What's...]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:33:48 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:33:48 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:33:48 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 peter lin 0 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723 Could you give a URL showing the performance of a relational database coded in pure Ruby?

No, I don't use Ruby. I was just asking you for backup to your claims. And that benchmark you provided favours embedded databases since...]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:27:36 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:27:36 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:27:36 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Cameron Zemek 7 Move over Ruby on Rails, Java can be concise too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32723
What high-performance databases are written in Java? Not saying Java is not capable of high-performance applications but what is written in Java that has high-performance?
Take a look at the recent thread...]]> Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:50:11 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:50:11 -0500 Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:50:11 -0500 Mar 22, 2005 Steve Zara 8