Support Forums: Message List - Novell partners with JBoss, replaces SilverStream with JBoss http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 23:02:18 -0400 While SilverStream, why James? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941
He was always a terrible pieve of junk. It doesn't surprise me that he...]]> Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:14:47 -0400 Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:14:47 -0400 Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:14:47 -0400 Apr 7, 2005 Paul Grassi 0 Java and Linux http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941
Well it's hardly as though Sun have encourage linux adoption of java. For an env to be shipped with a distroit should be open source . java isn't so java looses out.incidentally i've been checking out the mono project andi'm going...]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:22:34 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:22:34 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:22:34 -0500 Apr 1, 2005 Petr Jiricka 0 Developers deploying? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941 The whole point of J2EE deployment systems is to divide the responsibilities between developers and others
Riiight. Correct separation of responsibilities is key. Having one group do development and another group doing...]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2005 08:05:43 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 08:05:43 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 08:05:43 -0500 Apr 1, 2005 Mark N 0 Java SDK with Linux http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941 The SuSE Linux distribution comes with the Java SDK and has for a while now.
Does anyone know if SuSE had to pay Sun? Or sign some sort of license agreement?

Peace,

Cameron Purdy
 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:58:08 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:58:08 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:58:08 -0500 Apr 1, 2005 Cameron Purdy 0 and then they ask us to help them too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941 Sun's Linux JDK is (or was at least) created by Borland.
What do you mean when you say "created by Borland"? I'm curious, as my understanding was that 99% of the code (even Hotspot) was shared between Windows,...]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:57:34 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:57:34 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:57:34 -0500 Apr 1, 2005 Cameron Purdy 0 and then they ask us to help them too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941
Also the Linux Java version is not made by Sun.
That's new news to me. For years, the Java SDK for Linux has been made by Sun.FWIW - My guess is that you are referring to Blackdown, which is now based on Sun's Java SDK...]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:03:54 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:03:54 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:03:54 -0500 Apr 1, 2005 JT Wenting 1 Java and Linux http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941
What exactly in the JVM license prevents it from being distributed as part of linux? Or is this simply hardheadedness on the part of Linux distributions?
Basically, the only problem with including the JRE in a Linux...]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:01:19 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:01:19 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:01:19 -0500 Apr 1, 2005 JT Wenting 0 Developers deploying? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941
I have yet to see one of our customers have a developer deploy a relatively large J2EE application into a pre-production or production environment. I cannot even recall a deployment done by a developer into a test...]]> Fri, 01 Apr 2005 06:50:29 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 06:50:29 -0500 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 06:50:29 -0500 Apr 1, 2005 JT Wenting 1 Java SDK with Linux http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941 I checked the Java SDK license agreement, and it would not allow a distro to include the Java SDK.

The SuSE Linux distribution comes with the Java SDK and has for a while now.]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:28:49 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:28:49 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:28:49 -0500 Mar 31, 2005 Mike Heath 1 Who Deploys http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941 I used to work for a hosting company that hosted about 600 J2EE servers for General Electric.
Yes, GE is an interesting company...
I used to work with there staff doing deployments on about 40 of those servers....]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:21:43 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:21:43 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:21:43 -0500 Mar 31, 2005 Bill Burke 0 and then they ask us to help them too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:51:51 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:51:51 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:51:51 -0500 Mar 31, 2005 Srinivas Dorairaj 0 a mean and evil bunch http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941
<troll>"yeah, well when sun goes bust/gets bought by IBM I'm going to port to mono/ikvm rather than pay a couple hundred dollars a JRE for each of my servers."</troll>

Well you may laugh but the Open SOurce...]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:34:05 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:34:05 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:34:05 -0500 Mar 31, 2005 Rolf Tollerud 0 Java and Linux http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941
What exactly in the JVM license prevents it from being distributed as part of linux? Or is this simply hardheadedness on the part of Linux distributions?
Basically, the only problem with including the JRE in a Linux...]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:15:45 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:15:45 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:15:45 -0500 Mar 31, 2005 sadfasdf asdadsf 1 and then they ask us to help them too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941 the JRE?It is the SDK that is important and it is not distributed because you need permission (signed agreement) from Sun, you need to pay. Remember that Linux is the cause to that Sun soon is out of business. Also the Linux Java version is...]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:42 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:42 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:42 -0500 Mar 31, 2005 Cameron Purdy 5 and then they ask us to help them too! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=32941
It is the SDK that is important and it is not distributed because you need permission (signed agreement) from Sun, you need to pay. Remember that Linux is the cause to that Sun soon is out of business. Also the Linux Java version is not...]]> Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:39:08 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:39:08 -0500 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:39:08 -0500 Mar 31, 2005 Rolf Tollerud 6