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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>So both:(1) references are passed by value(2) objects are passed by referencecan simultaneously be true.</blockquote><br>and (3) objects in remote method calls are passed by value.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:48:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
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        <title>Objects passed by value --&amp;gt; :(</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33032</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes, there is a point to being this pedantic.<br><br>&quot;Pass by reference&quot; semantics are very specific, and are different to &quot;pass reference by value&quot; semantics - in particular, changing the value of the parameter within the method has...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 02:25:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jon Skeet</jf:author>
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        <title>Basic question of why upgrading?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33032</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am in the process of developing a project using Hibernate 2.1. Great job by the way.<br>I don't believe I have anything too fancy (using inheritance and associations). Apart from the goal of releasing software with the latests versions of dependent...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:53:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 5, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yann Perrin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Both are correct</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33032</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Oh, and great job by the way Hibernate folks!  Hibernate is a heck of a product!  Love it!  I really like Hibernate3 now that the checked exceptions have gone away.  Much easier to code this way.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:50:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 5, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Carman</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Both are correct</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33032</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Actually, that's not entirely true, Gavin.  Passing by reference would allow you to change WHICH object the caller is pointing to...<br><br>public static void someMethod( String param )<br>{<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;param = &quot;Some other...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:30:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>James Carman</jf:author>
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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Actually, I think both formulations are perfectly correct.It is certainly true that &quot;references to objects are passed by value&quot;. That tells us the semantics by which the hidden pointer is passed.</blockquote><br>There is no hidden...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 04:18:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 4, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Campbell</jf:author>
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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Actually, I think both formulations are perfectly correct.It is certainly true that &quot;references to objects are passed by value&quot;. That tells us the semantics by which the hidden pointer is passed. It doesn't actually say anything at...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 20:58:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris M</jf:author>
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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I wouldn't insult you two. You guys gave me a free orm tools :)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 05:21:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Cheung</jf:author>
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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I am not talking to you either, i was talking to chris M lol]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 05:18:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Cheung</jf:author>
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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I didn't write it, so you got the wrong guy for you little insult. But hey, I'm more used to it, so you're welcome :) Can we get back on topic?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 05:09:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christian  Bauer</jf:author>
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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I was talking to Chris, not Gavin :)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 04:11:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Cheung</jf:author>
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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Omg, I can't believe you guys actually think java is pass by preference for objects. Maybe you need to go back to college and take the introduction for java class again..<br><br><a href="http://javadude.com/articles/passbyvalue.htm"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 04:05:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Cheung</jf:author>
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        <title>Both are correct</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Actually, I think both formulations are perfectly correct.<br><br>It is certainly true that &quot;references to objects are passed by value&quot;. That tells us the semantics by which the hidden pointer is passed. It doesn't actually say anything at all...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:56:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>Objects passed by value --&amp;gt; :(</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33032</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'm very tempted to say &quot;Get a life!&quot;, but maybe I'm missing something behind all this &quot;confusion&quot;.<br><br>I've always considered Java to pass primitives by value and Objects by reference and I don't think that is confusing at all....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:22:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris M</jf:author>
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        <title>Java is pass by value</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>It was a simplifaction made to help readers understand an anology.</blockquote>I think most Java programmers understand the difference...</blockquote>... so why does it took almost 500 words to explain the difference in the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 18:26:23 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Emmanuel Bernard</jf:author>
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