Support Forums: Message List - Does EJB 3.0 really make application development easy? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 06:40:59 -0400 slow progress on jsr 237 ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082
Simon]]> Thu, 07 Apr 2005 03:00:16 -0400 Thu, 07 Apr 2005 03:00:16 -0400 Thu, 07 Apr 2005 03:00:16 -0400 Apr 7, 2005 Simon Gunzenreiner 0 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 Our EJB3 Persistence layer is built on the top of Oracle TopLink and hence inherits all it's robustness.
This is certainly true and an indicator that Oracle's EJB3 persistence *backend* will be robust. It doesn't say anything...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:26:36 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:26:36 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 17:26:36 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Juergen Hoeller 0 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 hardly anyone upgrades the entire J2EE server in an instant; that approvement process can take ages. An in particular, noone will upgrade their entire production J2EE server to a pre-release version.
And even when the server...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:49:17 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:49:17 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:49:17 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Davide Baroncelli 0 slow progress on jsr 237 ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:16:11 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:16:11 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:16:11 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Billy Newport 1 slow progress on jsr 237 ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082
Simon]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:00:50 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:00:50 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:00:50 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Simon Gunzenreiner 2 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 We will make sure that you will have not have the similar experience with Oracle's EJB3 implementation when we go to production (:-

Our EJB3 Persistence layer is built on the top of Oracle TopLink and hence inherits all it's...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:46:43 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:46:43 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:46:43 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Debu Panda 1 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 The document proves that WLS 6.0 included features of EJB 2.x before it was finalized.I remember very well. I actually tried to use that new CMP implementation at the time. Not a happy experience, as it was quite immature, unlike...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:37:08 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:37:08 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:37:08 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Rod Johnson 2 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 Gavin,This is not about certification per se, it's about production-readiness of the overall J2EE environment. J2EE servers like WebLogic and WebSphere usually don't declare a version production-ready until it's fully certified for a specific...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:19:36 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:19:36 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:19:36 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Debu Panda 3 further simplifying using the EJB 3 model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 It is blatant and yes, I am shameless :) But after Bill plugged the other stuff, I couldn't resist.But, I do think our stuff is really cool plus I have quite a bit of sweat in it so what can I say.I can't comment on when we'll have EJB 3.0 in...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:51:56 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:51:56 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:51:56 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Debu Panda 0 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 Hmmmm .... one month ago, Hibernate changed in a way that broke user code.True. No doubt you had valid reasons for making that choice. But the migration exercise wasn't too hard, as the same mappings should work and the API is...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:23:50 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:23:50 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:23:50 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Rod Johnson 0 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082
This is not about certification per se, it's about production-readiness of the overall J2EE environment. J2EE servers like WebLogic and WebSphere usually don't declare a version production-ready until it's fully certified for a specific...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:21:57 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Juergen Hoeller 5 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 Spring and Hibernate are mature products with large user bases
Since EJB 3.0 implementations can be very simple wrappers around mature ORM products like Hibernate/TopLink/Kodo, and mature EJB 2.1 containers, all with even...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 08:56:42 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 08:56:42 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 08:56:42 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Gavin King 1 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 And as a corollary to that, since Sping/Hibernate can never, ever be certified as compliant with any standard anywhere, nobody anywhere can never ever use Spring/Hibernate in production.Spring and Hibernate are mature products...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:06:06 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:06:06 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:06:06 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Rod Johnson 2 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082 After all, certified EJB3 containers are still a while away... a lot of early PR doesn't change that fact. Previews are nice, but noone is gonna get certified before the official release of the J2EE 1.5 umbrella spec - which won't happen...]]> Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:25:32 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:25:32 -0400 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:25:32 -0400 Apr 6, 2005 Gavin King 9 So, nobody says "EJB 3.0 sucks" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33082
When i saw this thread, i firstly thought that people would say lots of negative opinions. I'm just a j2ee newbie and worked only on a hibernate based project. I really want to know if EJB has a future?
Get...]]> Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:10:30 -0400 Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:10:30 -0400 Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:10:30 -0400 Apr 5, 2005 George Jiang 0