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        <title>Eclipse and JSR 220</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The Eclipse JSR 220 is now part of Eclipse Dali:

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.eclipse.org/dali/" target="_newWindow">http://www.eclipse.org/dali/</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:53:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:53:51 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sean Sullivan</jf:author>
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        <title>eclipsejdo</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes it is still alive. It joined Objectweb]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 04:42:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 04:42:47 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 29, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jean-claude  bellando</jf:author>
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        <title>Not to start a flame war, but..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Fantastic job not starting a flame war.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:39:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:39:50 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 26, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jon Bettinger</jf:author>
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        <title>Debunk? Better contribute!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>&quot;Objective benchmarks for performance against (<a href="http://polepos.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://polepos.sourceforge.net/</a>)&quot;An effort by an object database vendor who uses it for marketing. Not interesting and a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:13:00 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:13:00 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:13:00 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Apr 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joerg Plewe</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Mike,<br><br>Agreed, but as Oracle is one of our competitors, Toplink got scrubed from the list, sorry.<br><br>Mike]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:31:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:31:54 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>kimberlad</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[David,<br><br>Thank you for your feedback. I have already downloaded VOA standalone workbench (and KDO JDO&#x2019;s equivalent). As stated these sorts of productivity tools are deemed to be important for organization. <br><br>My main area of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:27:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:27:24 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>kimberlad</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Christian,<br><br>Thank you, two additional ticks in boxes:<br><br>+ Hibernate complies with the imminent EJB3 standard and any migration to another EJB3 vendor would require a limited number of changes (obviously excluding vendor specific...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 02:59:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 02:59:31 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 22, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>kimberlad</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>www.eclipsejdo.org</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Is the EclipseJDO project still alive?<br><br>&nbsp;URL:  <a href="http://www.eclipsejdo.org/" target="_blank">http://www.eclipsejdo.org/</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:49:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:49:19 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sean Sullivan</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Completely agree, you should have a benchmark for your own product/implementation. You should not trust anyone else (including me) to provide you an unbiased benchmark.</blockquote><br>Well said, Christian. That is the only way that somebody...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:32:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Keith</jf:author>
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        <title>Performance diagnostics and tuning: JDO &amp;amp; Hibernate</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&quot;OSQL Query console and an excellent JMX console that allows runtime performance diagnostics and tuning&quot;<br><br>I would like to inform you that JInspired (<a href="http://www.jinspired.com" target="_blank">http://www.jinspired.com</a>) recently...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:00:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>wlouth</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>if I said no an just gave them the DDL then I suspect we might not be in the position we are in.</blockquote><br>I think there are several tools which can produce diagrams from DDL, so for presentation this would not be an...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:46:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christian  Bauer</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi AntonyI think issuing one SQL query instead of 2 is usually going to be quicker (typical Order and LineItems example). You are correct that this will not always be the case so this behaviour is tunable in Versant Open...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:25:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:25:35 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>anthony patricio</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Antony<br><br>I think issuing one SQL query instead of 2 is usually going to be quicker (typical Order and LineItems example). You are correct that this will not always be the case so this behaviour is tunable in Versant Open...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:10:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:10:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David Tinker</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Christian is correct that many benchmarks are flawed. However the Torpedo benchmark only looks at the SQL generated by an ORM tool. This is the most important factor influencing ORM performance and neatly removes any apples and oranges...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:43:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>anthony patricio</jf:author>
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        <title>VOA JDO/EJB3 v's Hibernate?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33391</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Christian,<br><br>Thank you for the reply and the comments made. My additional comments for clarification are:<br><br>+ Visual Design Tools: <br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;- I have not met a customer yet who has not wanted an ERD diagram for our product, if I said...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:38:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>kimberlad</jf:author>
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