http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 22 May 2013 13:23:07 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 With Hibernate/Spring I now have an application 100% deployable to any AppServer without care about DDs.IMHO.
You are right. But reason for that is that you do not change your app server at all. You deploy your app server...]]> Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:39:00 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:39:00 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:39:00 -0400 Apr 23, 2005 damian frach 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:22:01 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:22:01 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:22:01 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 Henrik Stahl 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463
I will not start another discussion about use or not use EJBs, but for my real projects I have decided migrate from EJB to Spring/Hibernate for one simple feature : My application need to be deployable to many diferent AppServers,...]]> Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:54:15 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:54:15 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:54:15 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 Rogerio Saulo 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463
for me it is not a big issue, because I prefer to maintain a very good relationship with my Oracle DBA anyway ...]]> Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:27:46 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:27:46 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:27:46 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 damian frach 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 When J2EE is criticized, Entity Beans comes first on the list, then EJBs in general. Part of the criticism is the overall development model (classes, interfaces, descriptors)
this is true; but if you use right IDE (e.g. SUN...]]> Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:22:36 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:22:36 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:22:36 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 damian frach 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:25:27 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:25:27 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:25:27 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 Joe M. 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 On a completely unrelated subject, does anyone know why they used a 32-bit VM on a bunch of 64-bit CPUs?
I bet that a 64 Bit JVM is slower than 32 Bit. I mean, all of a sudden, every object pointer is twice is big, so you...]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:38:05 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:38:05 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:38:05 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 Will Hartung 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 SUN's entity beans are powered by SUN's JDO. Do you consider SUN's JDO also as horrors? Also Entity beans stay in EJB3. Is it also horror?
When J2EE is criticized, Entity Beans comes first on the list, then EJBs in general....]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:32:21 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:32:21 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:32:21 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 Will Hartung 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 they're using all of the "horrors" of the EJB stack (EJBs, Entity Beans, etc.)

Suns server is trying to be competetive.

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.V]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:45:01 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:45:01 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:45:01 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 Vic Cekvenich 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 I think the other interesting thing would be a weblog of the porting process to get the benchmark to run, as what we have here is, essentially, a good size "WORA" EJB application (since, SPEC provides the source code to the...]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:27:56 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:27:56 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:27:56 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 Urlap . 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463
"Technically you can't make price performance comparisons using the SPEC benchmark (so they say on their website)."

What I read on SPEC's website is this:

"SPEC does not endorse any price/performance...]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:05 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:05 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:52:05 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 sszurfer 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 Plus they're using all of the "horrors" of the EJB stack (EJBs, Entity Beans, etc.)
SUN's entity beans are powered by SUN's JDO. Do you consider SUN's JDO also as horrors?

Also Entity beans stay in EJB3. Is it...]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:16:28 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:16:28 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:16:28 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 damian frach 5 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463
Technically you can't make price performance comparisons using the SPEC benchmark (so they say on their website).

BUT, I think it's fair to say that what we have...]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:39:36 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:39:36 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:39:36 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 Will Hartung 11 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 I have a hard time finding books on this new App server of Sun's
What about 2000 pages of free documentation on docs.sun.com ???

What about that SUN AS 7/8 PE is FREE even for PRODUCTION ???]]> Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:38:22 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:38:22 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:38:22 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 damian frach 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33463 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:37:02 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:37:02 -0400 Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:37:02 -0400 Apr 21, 2005 Mike Brown 0