Support Forums: Message List - More internet email providers move to rich clients http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 23:50:56 -0400 Why compilicate matters? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 I'm afraid all that will open a _huuuuge_ hole for all sorts of abuse, spyware being probably the most innocent.Why don't use just Java VM instead, with its mature security model? Probably a stripped down version like Micro Edition, just with...]]> Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:21:14 -0400 Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:21:14 -0400 Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:21:14 -0400 Apr 25, 2005 Konstantin Ignatyev 0 Why compilicate matters? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 All we need are javascript threads, so apps can run continuously without being associated with a particular page, and Canvas support for UI rendering, which is in the latest Moz builds I think.Some sort of javascript JIT would be nice too.Its...]]> Mon, 25 Apr 2005 02:09:42 -0400 Mon, 25 Apr 2005 02:09:42 -0400 Mon, 25 Apr 2005 02:09:42 -0400 Apr 25, 2005 Timur Evdokimov 1 Gmail is a rich client? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 GMail is thin and rich, Flash is just fat. Which would you rather be?]]> Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:49:12 -0400 Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:49:12 -0400 Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:49:12 -0400 Apr 24, 2005 Indranil Banerjee 0 Goowy.com http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 No, Reality:If you don't already have Flash installed, you are left out!!
Maybe you are left out. But this is because of stupid decisions of others. There are a lot of systems where you cannot install the flash player. Many...]]> Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:28:57 -0400 Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:28:57 -0400 Sun, 24 Apr 2005 07:28:57 -0400 Apr 24, 2005 Christian Haselbach 0 Rapid Development of Rich Internet Applications - Casabac http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469
(1) developers have to deal with "ugly" Javascript - getting both into problems with runtime errors (non-strong typing in JavaScript) and into into problems with browser...]]> Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:02:06 -0400 Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:02:06 -0400 Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:02:06 -0400 Apr 24, 2005 Bjoern Mueller 0 Bindows Link http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:51:45 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:51:45 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:51:45 -0400 Apr 23, 2005 Jose Luis Rodriguez 0 Near rich clients http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469
I have try Lazslo...]]> Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:44:12 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:44:12 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:44:12 -0400 Apr 23, 2005 Nebojsa Vasiljevic 0 Why compilicate matters? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 The browser is almost there.All we need are javascript threads, so apps can run continuously without being associated with a particular page, and Canvas support for UI rendering, which is in the latest Moz builds I think.Some sort of...]]> Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:49:59 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:49:59 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:49:59 -0400 Apr 23, 2005 Henrique Steckelberg 0 GMail supports more than one rich client http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469
The browser might get smarter and smarter, but it's still lightyears behind most dedicated e-mail programs, and it's quite hard to customize a web...]]> Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:51:19 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:51:19 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:51:19 -0400 Apr 23, 2005 Lasse Nielsen 0 Why compilicate matters? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469
All we need are javascript threads, so apps can run continuously without being associated with a particular page, and Canvas support for UI rendering, which is in the latest Moz builds I think.

Some sort of...]]> Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:12:49 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:12:49 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:12:49 -0400 Apr 23, 2005 Lyndon Samson 3 Wingz for RIA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 With wingz and webstart you are able to provide true application on internet.

http://www.zvalley.com/]]> Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:10:37 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:10:37 -0400 Sat, 23 Apr 2005 03:10:37 -0400 Apr 23, 2005 Vincent Bellet 0 Webstart is an option http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469
If you are looking for a webstart based web application framekwork check out jThinRich:

 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:36:08 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:36:08 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:36:08 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 Rauf Issa 0 More internet email providers move to rich clients http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 Looks like a lot of assumptions without much foundation IMO. What is your stake in JSF Henrique? Just curious.As I have already said before, I coded some XWindows a long time ago, so I am basing on what I remember. I have no...]]> Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:51:09 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:51:09 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:51:09 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 Henrique Steckelberg 0 More internet email providers move to rich clients http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469 AFAIK, properly coding such app server would involve using shared memory, semaphores, pipes and a bunch of low-level unix APIs, I wouldn't regard them as being easy compared to Java's multithread coding. I am assuming that XWindows does not...]]> Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:54:25 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:54:25 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:54:25 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 Konstantin Ignatyev 1 year of the rich client http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=33469
Thanks very much for your positive comments! It sounds like you have mostly answered your questions from looking at the online examples, just a couple of loose ends:

   1) In that demo application, Windows are just...]]> Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0400 Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0400 Apr 22, 2005 Jeff Dill 0