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            <description><![CDATA[Jose, <br><br>does not that sound like a workaround? I mean - would you enjoy doing the same implementation if there was no problem using dozens of GB of memory in JVM?]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Irakli Nadareishvili</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[But although in the near future we are going to have pervasive machines with 64-bit processors and a lot of RAM (&gt;100 gigabytes) it doesn't imply that we must launch a single JVM in that machines that uses all that memory. <br><br>For example, in our...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Jose Ramon Huerga Ayuso</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>1. What is need to serialize the data across the clusters? I would rather have an invalidation mechanism which will be implemented on messaging and only thing the cluster needs to take care of publishing the invalidation messages so that...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Sorry for being a little late in writing in this thread. <br><br>Whereas, you may be partially right (if we assume GC is never going to improve at all), but I can't agree to the second point of yours,<br><br>1. What is need to serialize the data across...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[It seems to me that there have been an awful lot of assumptions made here.  The argument is being made about using 64-bit servers that are just now hitting the market, 1 Tb of RAM which is far far beyond what most any server can handle and upcoming JVMs...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Rich Hill</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[I've talked to Sun engineers who claimed that they can get decent GC performance on 50GB heaps now.<br><br>I think that we're going to see diminishing returns, though, b/c Java is designed conceptually around a global heap (conceptually .. since there's...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Cameron,<br><br>that's all good and nice and that's why Coherence is one of the rare products, I, personally, truly respect, but - how about the JVM itself? :)<br><br>On the hardware side, amount of addressable RAM increases by orders of magnitude and...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Irakli Nadareishvili</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Do you have cluster? Are you synchronizing that data in the cluster? Is your application read-most or read-write? What is the load it gets? How is the performance?</blockquote><br>I can speak to the clustering aspect. While our Coherence...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Being able to start JVM with -Xmx7000M does not solve the problem. The question was performance and how practical it is, <u>under the conditions mentioned</u>. Do you have cluster? Are you synchronizing that data in the cluster? Is your application...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Irakli Nadareishvili</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">Now, imagine caching several dozens or hundreds of Gigabytes in a cluster. &quot;In cluster&quot; means - you have to sync cache.<br><br>Cameron? Where's the Enterprise Hashmap gone?</div>]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[I'm using the JVM with 7GB (-Xmx7000M) on Linux.]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>rodry rodry</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hardware world is steadily moving towards 64bit architectures, one can even say - we are almost there.<br><br>Among other things, one important characteristic of 64bit architecture is that it can process way more RAM, several orders of magnitude more...]]></description>
        

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