Support Forums: Message List - EJB Components without Facades? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 14:45:10 -0400 Integration testing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 But can you use this approach on the business layer or even in the UI action layer?Yes, I've certainly used it against the business layer, and it works well. Always in addition to unit tests for that layer, which will use...]]> Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:07:34 -0400 Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:07:34 -0400 Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:07:34 -0400 Jul 9, 2005 Rod Johnson 0 Flexibility http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658
Maybe you...]]> Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:20:18 -0400 Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:20:18 -0400 Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:20:18 -0400 Jun 27, 2005 Jim LoVerde 0 Re: Depedencies http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 Have a nice day.]]> Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:29:52 -0400 Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:29:52 -0400 Thu, 23 Jun 2005 05:29:52 -0400 Jun 23, 2005 Mark Vleth 1 Re: Depedencies http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 J2EE is nonsense[...]THAT is a narrow-minded remark, if any.
[...]because it's an invasive concept.
True, but no more invasive than a lot of other technologies. IoC is not an invasive concept? I don't...]]> Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:33:04 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:33:04 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:33:04 -0400 Jun 22, 2005 Martin Straus 2 Integration testing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 The org.springframework.test package provides useful support for integration testing.
Rod,

A...]]> Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:47:33 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:47:33 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:47:33 -0400 Jun 22, 2005 huc muc 1 a mixed ejb pattern? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:29:53 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:29:53 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:29:53 -0400 Jun 22, 2005 Brian Vaughn 0 Integration testing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 org.springframework.test package provides useful support for integration testing.]]> Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:53:21 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:53:21 -0400 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:53:21 -0400 Jun 22, 2005 Rod Johnson 2 Re: AOP mind share http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 I agree they are a new way. I'd disagree if you thought they were the only way (not that you have said this).OO models can be as elegant and manageable. In fact, I'd argue far more manageable. Try entering a large mature Spring project...]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:51:44 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:51:44 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:51:44 -0400 Jun 21, 2005 huc muc 3 Re: AOP mind share http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 I agree with injection - great for testing. Auto-wiring has created deployment issues.I admit it's about 9 months since playing with AOP - so I'll bow out now. Thanks for your comments.Cheers,Jonathan
Yes - I agree with your...]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:08:34 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:08:34 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:08:34 -0400 Jun 21, 2005 Steve Zara 0 Re: AOP mind share http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658
I admit it's about 9 months since playing with AOP - so I'll bow out now.

Thanks for your comments.

Cheers,
Jonathan]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:16:52 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:16:52 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:16:52 -0400 Jun 21, 2005 Jonathan Gibbons 1 Re: AOP mind share http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 I agree they are a new way. I'd disagree if you thought they were the only way (not that you have said this).OO models can be as elegant and manageable. In fact, I'd argue far more manageable. Try entering a large mature Spring project...]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:04:03 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:04:03 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:04:03 -0400 Jun 21, 2005 Steve Zara 2 Re: AOP mind share http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658 "Separation of concerns is not having different 'concerns' (e.g. persistence, security, logging) mixed up in the same code."In this AOP view you mix it up in an ascii file.
No you don't. If, for example, I want a...]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:59:09 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:59:09 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:59:09 -0400 Jun 21, 2005 Steve Zara 0 Re: AOP mind share http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658
That's why I said make yourself more fimiliar with AOP, since it's a concept, not an...]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:34:40 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:34:40 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:34:40 -0400 Jun 21, 2005 Mark Vleth 0 Re: AOP mind share http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658
OO models can be as elegant and manageable. In fact, I'd argue far more manageable. Try entering a large mature Spring project with...]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:57 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:57 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:57 -0400 Jun 21, 2005 Jonathan Gibbons 7 Re: AOP mind share http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34658
Accusing folks of not being familiar with concepts as a part of an argument is a pretty immature approach.

I offer the position that runtime config creates more problems than I need. Your response is that I don't know anything about...]]> Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:24:53 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:24:53 -0400 Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:24:53 -0400 Jun 21, 2005 Jonathan Gibbons 1