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        <title>Applauding the strategy</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> I'd guess that they're trying to build their revenues by offering the things that their customers are showing willingness to pay for.BEA is a business. Trust me, if enough of their customers were asking for JBoss or Geronimo support at the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:54:58 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:54:58 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 6, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Slava Imeshev</jf:author>
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        <title>Tricky, Tricky, Tricky</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I do not see why I need WebLogic to run Spring</blockquote>You don't. Who said you did? It was obvious from Mark Carges's keynote at JavaOne that BEA are <i>happy</i> the fact that Spring is portable. This announcement in no way ties Spring...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:04:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:04:01 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 6, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rod Johnson</jf:author>
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        <title>Tricky, Tricky, Tricky &amp;#x2026;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34875</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I believe that BEA strategy is to diversify its revenue streams through professional open source. And why not, it makes sense. IBM does it through consulting or any sort. I do not see why I need WebLogic to run Spring. If I am part of 1% of the companies...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:26:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:26:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 5, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sergey Sundukovskiy</jf:author>
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        <title>Meeting our customer needs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34875</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Just to throw my two cents in, from a BEA field perspective (though I don't speak for BEA, I speak for myself).<br><br>Almost all of our customers are using Struts these days for new web development.  Some are using our Java Page Flow extensions to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:45:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:45:45 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jun 30, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stu Charlton</jf:author>
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        <title>hibernate is not in the loop</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34875</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The hibernate people still have this on their website.<br><br><a href="http://www.hibernate.org/250.html#A23" target="_blank">http://www.hibernate.org/250.html#A23</a><br><br>Maybe BEA could let them know that this is or has been resolved.<br><br>Still,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:34:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 30, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David Montoya</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA... :-( not good...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[&lt;alexander&gt;<br>But I think the reason for this is simply that BEA is in a much more difficult position. <br>&lt;/alexander&gt;<br><br>Alexander, I agree with all your points... All those companies like you said are offering same stuffs (OS, data,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:49:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 30, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA... :-( not good...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>We will also continue to provide support for J2EE standards in this area, which means JSF, but the fact is that most customers are mixing and matching these frameworks to best meet their business needs.  Our plan is to provide the best...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:12:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 30, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Twice Tshwenyane</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA... :-( not good...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Lofi, I share your general feeling about the respective strategies of BEA and Oracle. But I think the reason for this is simply that BEA is in a much more difficult position. BEA sells high priced software in a field where free (as in beer) software is...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:54:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 30, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>aljeru</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA... :-) not bad...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Does this mean we should see a BEA supported ACEGI security adapter that works with WebLogic?</blockquote><br>I am not going to commit to specific feature support for Spring as that if coming in the near future.  Since ACEGI has support for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:04:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 29, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Shane Pearson</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA Struggling?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I can't help but respond to Cameron's comment that BEA &quot;is struggling to maintain its billion dollar revenues&quot;.  <br><br>This is a wide spread perception that simply is not true.  Here are the facts.  BEA just turned in a record Q1.  It was a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:39:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 29, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Stahl</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA... :-) not bad...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Does this mean we should see a BEA supported ACEGI security adapter that works with WebLogic?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:47:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 29, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Clifford</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> The key point is that I don't see any *long-term strategy* from the webcast:</blockquote><br>First, I also work at BEA and thought this comment was worth directly addressing.  Yes, it is true we did not get into the entire company product...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:06:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 29, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Shane Pearson</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[I don't want to attact BEA engineers for what they are *not* doing. That was my personal opinion after seeing those webcasts from BEA and Oracle performed by their respective bosses (I'm waiting for the IBM one to see what they are after for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:28:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 29, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">I also don't see any use of Beehive. It's just an &gt;implementation of BEA but not more than that, no standard, &gt;nothing<br><br>And Yes, I work for BEA as an engineer.<br><br>In regards to this statement, I think this is an...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:59:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 29, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>MIKE JASNOWSKI</jf:author>
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        <title>BEA... :-( not good...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[After seeing both webcasts: BEA and Oracle from JavaOne (<a href="http://wcdata.sun.com/webcast/archives/VIP-1981/" target="_blank">http://wcdata.sun.com/webcast/archives/VIP-1981/</a>) I conclude following:<br><br>- Oracle has overall a better strategy....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:40:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 29, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lofi Dewanto</jf:author>
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