Support Forums: Message List - TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 07:45:01 -0400 oh is it over? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:02:29 -0400 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:02:29 -0400 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:02:29 -0400 Jul 15, 2005 bill salamanca 0 JSF Complex? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 The component framework itself is nice. The page authoring is really the beast. Not easy to take a piece of HTML and quickly make it reuseable e.g. a border or a login form. Not easy to mix HTML in with the JSF tags and not easy to work...]]> Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:15:07 -0400 Jul 10, 2005 hookomjj 0 JSF Complex? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:14:38 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:14:38 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:14:38 -0400 Jul 8, 2005 Sony Mathew 1 JSF Complex? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:40:27 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:40:27 -0400 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:40:27 -0400 Jul 8, 2005 Doug Bateman 2 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983
Wanted to replace our Struts standard. Webwork is a natural...]]> Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:53:00 -0400 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:53:00 -0400 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:53:00 -0400 Jul 6, 2005 Sony Mathew 3 the smackdown was great http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:19:35 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:19:35 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:19:35 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 nextdb 0 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 I will give you that. The overhead isn't that substantial though. Felipe Leme gave a talk on MVC bottlenecks and the throughput of JSF vs Struts only differed by about 5%. They said they expected there to be a bigger difference, but their...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:39:20 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:39:20 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:39:20 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 Jason Carreira 0 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983
I was one of the speakers for "Using Annotations in Large-Scale Systems...", and here are a couple of corrections about Floyd's notes on our BOF.
Seriously guys, I was not at the session, but this is more than...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:53:27 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:53:27 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:53:27 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 Rog??rio Gatto 0 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 The point was that for the vast majority of pages, the overhead and complexity introduced by JSF is RIDICULOUS. To add that for EVERY page just to accomodate the 1-5% of actually complex pages is absurd. Especially when you can go for a much...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:50:35 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:50:35 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:50:35 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 hookomjj 1 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 I have to disagree with you here. Writing JSF applications shouldn't mean writing components new components for everything. JSF is founded on the idea of composition where I can just use objects readily available online within my...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:35:19 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:35:19 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:35:19 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 Jason Carreira 2 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 Yes, we have AJAX components too, and, as we always do, we're making them easy for the developer to use rather than wrapping them in a ton of extraneous "component" stuff just to create a white-paper architecture. If you really...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:50:03 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:50:03 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:50:03 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 hookomjj 3 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 Ouch Jason. Of course we made it.

My bad, I missed the link for "Day 4"... Of course I could have been confused since it was on Wednesday and the conference opened on Monday, making it Day 3 by my...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:08:02 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:08:02 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:08:02 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 Jason Carreira 4 Spell Check http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983
Peace \/ .....]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:56:30 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:56:30 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 08:56:30 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 Sunil Pethe 0 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 You guys didn't make it to the web frameworks smackdown, but went and just copied down the JSF pablum? Jeez...
Ouch Jason. Of course we made it. I even stood up during the audience participation section and asked "How...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:42:56 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:42:56 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 01:42:56 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 Doug Bateman 5 TSS at JavaOne 2005 - Day 3 & 4 Coverage http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=34983 You guys didn't make it to the web frameworks smackdown, but went and just copied down the JSF pablum? Jeez...
I seem to remember you skipped your slides in order to do your pitch ;-) Quite a few of us thought you did an...]]> Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:09:49 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:09:49 -0400 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 00:09:49 -0400 Jul 5, 2005 hookomjj 0