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        <title>JCA Vs JBI - Standards for Standards (recurse forever :-)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>1) JBI choose to define yet another standard for <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Component development when JCA has most of the<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;design principals - both from invocation standpoint<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and deployment model...]]></description>
        

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        <title>James Strachan tries to explain JBI</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Don't you think that something is wrong about a standard that needs somebody to blog about it to get it clarified, in even more obscure terms? Certainly, nothing can beat &quot;SOA is not a technology&quot; (c), but <i>&quot;a simple API to a Normalized...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:44:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>James Strachan tries to explain JBI</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>BTW, did not really understand (and the blog entry did not explain) why folks at CodeHaus keep starting new projects instead of joining existing ones. Is it the beauty of open source, the lack of information or an...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:21:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:21:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Strachan</jf:author>
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        <title>James Strachan tries to explain JBI</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>BTW, did not really understand (and the blog entry did not explain) why folks at CodeHaus keep starting new projects instead of joining existing ones. Is it the beauty of open source, the lack of information or an acute form of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:13:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Francois Letellier</jf:author>
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        <title>RE: JBI is mainly a service providers' programming interface</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35053</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It is emphasized all over that JBI is not for application developers. But what if the developer wants to write his/her application in SOA style. Meaning that the biz logic is separated from the rest as the services and the biz processes...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:37:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:37:48 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Strachan</jf:author>
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        <title>JCA Vs JBI - Standards for Standards (recurse forever :-)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I believe JCA connectors require an EJB container for servicing inbound calls.  Vendors have implemented proprietary extensions for such connectors to work outside the scope of an EJB container though.It would make sense to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:31:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>James Strachan</jf:author>
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        <title>James Strachan tries to explain JBI</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>BTW, did not really understand (and the blog entry did not explain) why folks at CodeHaus keep starting new projects instead of joining existing ones.</blockquote>I understand it. James is getting old and it's time for him to make...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:25:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>James Strachan</jf:author>
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        <title>James Strachan tries to explain JBI</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>BTW there's a good description of JBI in Steve Vinoski's <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:19:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>JCA Vs JBI - Standards for Standards (recurse forever :-)</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I believe JCA connectors require an EJB container for servicing inbound calls.  Vendors have implemented proprietary extensions for such connectors to work outside the scope of an EJB container though.It would make sense to simplify...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:16:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Amit Gupta</jf:author>
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        <title>James Strachan tries to explain JBI</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>BTW, did not really understand (and the blog entry did not explain) why folks at CodeHaus keep starting new projects instead of joining existing ones.</blockquote><br>I understand it. James is getting old and it's time for him to make money....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:44:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andreas Mueller</jf:author>
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        <title>James Strachan tries to explain JBI</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35053</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>BTW there's a good description of JBI in Steve Vinoski's <a href="http://dsonline.computer.org/portal/site/dsonline/menuitem.9ed3d9924aeb0dcd82ccc6716bbe36ec/index.jsp?&pName=dso_level1&path=dsonline/0507&file=w4tow.xml&xsl=article.xsl&"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:47:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Francois Letellier</jf:author>
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        <title>Normalized Messages</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>When you are integrating in an SOA you typically do not have a 100% Java environment. Even in a 100% Java SOA, which is very rare, you typically have version and classpath hell, so serializing Java objects around an SOA is not a great idea -...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:26:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>RE: JBI is mainly a service providers' programming interface</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35053</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It is emphasized all over that JBI is not for application developers. But what if the developer wants to write his/her application in SOA style. Meaning that the biz logic is separated from the rest as the services and the biz processes orchestrating the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:17:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Josef Vosyka</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Now I don't know what your background is or what kind of applications you develop. But chances are that there are people out there who try to solve problems that are different from yours.</blockquote><br>I mostly work with integration, a mix...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:28:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Wille Faler</jf:author>
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        <title>JBI is mainly a service providers' programming interface</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35053</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>With a bit of luck this will allow a market for JBI components to emerge as you should be able to use components from different vendors/projects in the same JBI container.</blockquote>You mean like the market that was supposedly...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 03:12:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 10, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Oliver Kamps</jf:author>
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