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        <title>Open Source start-ups will turn into a bloodbath soon</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I believe that the open source part of the industry is up for a bloodbath, and pretty soon, sure, some companies will survive, but the wast majority will go belly-up akin to 2001 dotcoms.Why?Heres why:Compelling customer benefits:Very few,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:28:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:28:21 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Francois Letellier</jf:author>
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        <title>From Volunteer Open Source to Professional Open Source</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hmmm. Did not know that such announcement was &quot;newsworthy&quot; according to TSS standards. Just my 2 cents here: <a href="http://os3g.blogspot.com/2005/08/economic-perspective-on-open-source.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:14:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:14:51 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Francois Letellier</jf:author>
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        <title>OSS and jobs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>From my experiences, as an OSS project grows and matures, the more free help and documentation there are and the less it is needed for diving deep into the source codes. If that OSS project is not matured, then you should not use it at all...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:23:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:23:08 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
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        <title>Comments on BEA???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I do find it funny that people think JBoss makes up our market share numbers.  Various market share surveys have us between #1 and #4.<br><br>* BZResearch has us at #1.<br>* Gartner magic quadrant<br>* O'Reilly's OnJava.com did a Reader...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:32:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:32:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>Comments on BEA???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The Gartner Magic Quadrant is not a measure of market share.  <br><br>Eric<br>BEA]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:31:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:31:45 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Stahl</jf:author>
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        <title>OSS and jobs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have no doubt that the limitless ressource that FOSS represents benefit overall growth. The fact that FOSS may drive a specific company or country out of the market is just something we may have to accept.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 04:51:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 04:51:03 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jan Hansen</jf:author>
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        <title>Comments on BEA???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I do find it funny that people think JBoss makes up our market share numbers.  Various market share surveys have us between #1 and #4.* <a href="http://sdtimes.com/news/117/story5.htm" target="_blank">BZResearch</a> has us at #1.* <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:56:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:56:50 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rickard Oberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Comments on BEA???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Also, check the IDC market share data.  BEA is #1 in the largest segment (UNIX deployments) and is #1 is the fastest growing segments (Linux deployments).  The FUD that the Astroturfers and our competitors spread should be...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:16:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:16:46 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 15, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>OSS and jobs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'm bias here, but I disagree that OSS might make programming expertise a commodity. I would argue that at any given time, there's a &quot;relatively constant&quot; percent of programmers that have enough skill to read a given piece of OSS...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:49:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:49:08 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 14, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hacking bear</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Comments on BEA???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't think we worry that BEA would go under this year or the next. (In particular, I have never bought a single share of BEA.)<br><br>We should worry about the trend!<br><br>Solaris used to be dominant serer OS. Today, it may still be faster than...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:15:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:15:10 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 14, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hacking bear</jf:author>
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        <title>Comments on BEA???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Also, check the IDC market share data.  BEA is #1 in the largest segment (UNIX deployments) and is #1 is the fastest growing segments (Linux deployments).  The FUD that the Astroturfers and our competitors spread should be filtered...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:51:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:51:28 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 14, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rich Sharples</jf:author>
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        <title>Re:Comments on BEA??? But what about JBoss?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>... Also, check the IDC market share data.  BEA is #1 in the largest segment (UNIX deployments) and is #1 is the fastest growing segments (Linux deployments)....EricBEA</blockquote><br>I thought JBoss was NUMERO UNO! Last I heard, every...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:15:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:15:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 14, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vladimir Konstantinov</jf:author>
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        <title>Comments on BEA???</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The comments about BEA are off base.  Open source, as great as it is in many areas, does not have products that compete with the core of BEA's business.  The heavy lifting we do with WebLogic and Tuxedo is our bread and butter and in those use cases we...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:54:16 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:54:16 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 14, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Stahl</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>7</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>I would disagree</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Great analysis! I hope Fleury's talk becomes a wake-up call.<br>I don't care if these OSS start-ups will succee or fail.What we should worry about is that the abundance of open source software will graduately erode the value of all software...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:40:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:40:23 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 14, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>From Volunteer Open Source to Professional Open Source</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35156</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'll put another spin on your comments. Open Source projects may have quality documentation, but it is *very* difficult to maintain up-to-date documentation. </blockquote>From what I have seen, the same is true of closed source projects....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:17:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:17:49 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 14, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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