Support Forums: Message List - TestNG 2.5 Released http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Mon, 20 May 2013 17:30:10 -0400 IntelliJ IDEA's plugin problem http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:39:46 -0400 Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:39:46 -0400 Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:39:46 -0400 Aug 12, 2005 Nguyen Anh Tuan 0 What's so amazing about Test NG? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 And TestNG's innovation was to use annotations? Not just that. In a nutshell:

- Groups (very important to define sets of test methods that cannot be adequately grouped by classes or packages, such as "long...]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:51:03 -0400 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:51:03 -0400 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:51:03 -0400 Aug 11, 2005 Cedric Beust 1 Coupling/decoupling from what ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770
(some) Terms with OO: abstraction, encapsulation, inheritence, polymorphism.

(some) Terms with SS: coupling, cohesion.

(i am mot quite getting into...]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2005 05:37:14 -0400 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 05:37:14 -0400 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 05:37:14 -0400 Aug 11, 2005 K S 0 What's so amazing about Test NG? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 ... admitted that most of its roadmap comes straight from TestNGAnd TestNG's innovation was to use annotations? I only read up on annotations during JavaOne in June... and the VERY first thing I thought of was using them to...]]> Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:00:53 -0400 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:00:53 -0400 Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:00:53 -0400 Aug 11, 2005 Trenton Lipscomb 2 IDEA 5.0 Only http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770
The plugin requires IDEA 5.0, and that your instance of IDEA is running under JDK5.0. The plugin does however support JDK 1.4 for tests.
Then there's an IDEA 5.0 plugin not an IDEA plugin. I hope it's not too much...]]> Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:44:26 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:44:26 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:44:26 -0400 Aug 10, 2005 Cedric Beust 0 IDEA 5.0 Only http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 The plugin requires IDEA 5.0, and that your instance of IDEA is running under JDK5.0. The plugin does however support JDK 1.4 for tests.
Then there's an IDEA 5.0 plugin not an IDEA plugin. I hope it's not too much effort...]]> Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:58:22 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:58:22 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:58:22 -0400 Aug 10, 2005 Lars Fischer 1 static methods reduce coupling? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:28:16 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:28:16 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:28:16 -0400 Aug 10, 2005 Marc Stock 0 Coupling/decoupling from what ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770
If my context is decoupling the invocation from the method's implementation
Class.staticMethod does definitely couple while
Interface.myMethod decouples. That's polymorphism. Nothing new to understand....]]> Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:33:30 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:33:30 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:33:30 -0400 Aug 10, 2005 Alan Potsky 1 static methods reduce coupling? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 Cedric is of course wrong.I think he is not wrong. When i want to make a method generic i just make it static and then i can indeed move it around real easy to a class where it belongs, dependencies are gone for a great part. I...]]> Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:49:53 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:49:53 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:49:53 -0400 Aug 10, 2005 Dennis Bekkering 2 IDEA 5.0 Only http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:41:54 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:41:54 -0400 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:41:54 -0400 Aug 10, 2005 Mark Derricutt 2 static methods reduce coupling? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 Interesting, considering the JUnit folks plan on copying almost every feature of TestNG for JUnit 4. So, do you trust people who steal ideas from someone who supposedly doesn't understand what constitutes coupling in a design? Just...]]> Tue, 09 Aug 2005 19:48:44 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 19:48:44 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 19:48:44 -0400 Aug 9, 2005 Cameron Purdy 4 static methods reduce coupling? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 And unless I'm just being dumb and the comment is justified, I admit to a little hesitation about adopting a framework developed by someone who doesn't understand what constitutes coupling in a design.
Interesting, considering...]]> Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:46:09 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:46:09 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:46:09 -0400 Aug 9, 2005 Marc Stock 5 TestNG 2.5 Released http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:33:35 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:33:35 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:33:35 -0400 Aug 9, 2005 Lars Fischer 3 static methods reduce coupling? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 If the method is non static, you need an instance to be able to run it, so you depend on the constructor(s) of this class and its state.
You've got to be kidding. If the method is non-static, you can refer to the instance...]]> Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:30:10 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:30:10 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:30:10 -0400 Aug 9, 2005 Corby Page 0 static methods reduce coupling? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35770 Now, how about actually judging TestNG on what it does instead of something you read years ago about me, mmmh?-- Cedric
Snarky reply to snarky comment first -- actually I read it about 5 minutes before...]]> Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:37:13 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:37:13 -0400 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:37:13 -0400 Aug 9, 2005 James Waldrop 0