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        <title>Abandoning tools?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[When you claim there are no good tools. What about Exadel Studio Pro? <br>I more or less looked at all the WYSIWYG tools available, but this clearly stands out in comparison in my opinion.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:37:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 9, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dennis Pettersson</jf:author>
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        <title>Documentation for Facelets</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'd suggest you spend a little time with documentation instead of coding.  Your blog entry is not enough(!).  Documentation that clearly states what you are trying to do will help sell your project.</blockquote><br><a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 04:07:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hookomjj</jf:author>
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        <title>Documentation for Facelets</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'd suggest you spend a little time with documentation instead of coding.  Your blog entry is not enough(!).  Documentation that clearly states what you are trying to do will help sell your project.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 03:37:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Anthony Berglas</jf:author>
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        <title>ASP.Net is much better than JSPs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>(I should add that JSF does build an object model of sorts, but in parallel to the rendering, not a separate pass.  See<a href="http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/06/09/jsf.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 01:43:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hookomjj</jf:author>
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        <title>ASP.Net is much better than JSPs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[(I should add that JSF does build an object model of sorts, but in parallel to the rendering, not a separate pass.  See<br><br><a href="http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/06/09/jsf.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 01:41:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Anthony Berglas</jf:author>
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        <title>ASP.Net is much better than JSPs</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[JSPs are basically like the old Microsoft ASPs which came from CGI.  You are writing a program that outputs HTML.<br><br>ASP.NET uses a different model.  The HTML with tags embedded actually produces an object graph.  So something...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:56:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 17, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Anthony Berglas</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Main advantage is droppring JSP ;)</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
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        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 03:21:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 12, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eugene Lucash</jf:author>
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        <title>You can use facelts outside webappserver</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>but, there is a web container needed to run ? I will love to see an technology like this running in a lightweight container out of a J2EE container, something like Spring.</blockquote><br>Look at avalible documentantion and test cases and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 03:20:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 12, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eugene Lucash</jf:author>
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        <title>All Java vs Java... How is it when compared to .Net?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I will like to see that presentation, appears very cool, but, there is a web container needed to run ? I will love to see an technology like this running in a lightweight container out of a J2EE container, something like Spring.<br>A few months ago I...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:32:00 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rogerio Saulo</jf:author>
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        <title>All Java vs Java... How is it when compared to .Net?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>My point is, you are right that JSF with Tiles create a &quot;web-based&quot; dependency and Facelets can possibly generate another type of client interface, but can you give me an example?? I had not saw any type of framework ou technology...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:05:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hookomjj</jf:author>
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        <title>All Java vs Java... How is it when compared to .Net?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>You cannot compare to .NET today because .NET is moving to Avalon, and will change everything that MS developers use today, IMO another big mistake from MS, we have tecnologies like avalon today in the J2EE world as...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:58:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rogerio Saulo</jf:author>
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        <title>All Java vs Java... How is it when compared to .Net?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>You cannot compare to .NET today because .NET is moving to Avalon, and will change everything that MS developers use today, IMO another big mistake from MS, we have tecnologies like avalon today in the J2EE world as Thinlets, XUL,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:26:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hookomjj</jf:author>
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        <title>What is it better than Tiles ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi, I&#xb4;m not a user of Tapestry, but reading the documentation of the Facelets, i do not see nothing much better than use of JSF  with Tiles Support (I&#xb4;m using Tiles + JSF + MYfaces) for the presentation tier.Anyone can point what...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:25:16 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hookomjj</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>You cannot compare to .NET today because .NET is moving to Avalon, and will change everything that MS developers use today, IMO another big mistake from MS, we have tecnologies like avalon today in the J2EE world as Thinlets, XUL, Lazlo, etc,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:20:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>hookomjj</jf:author>
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        <title>All Java vs Java... How is it when compared to .Net?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=35774</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You cannot compare to .NET today because .NET is moving to Avalon, and will change everything that MS developers use today, IMO another big mistake from MS, we have tecnologies like avalon today in the J2EE world as Thinlets, XUL, Lazlo, etc, with Avalon...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:14:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 11, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rogerio Saulo</jf:author>
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