Support Forums: Message List - Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Tue, 21 May 2013 23:47:40 -0400 Is this needed? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357
Commercial ones like weblogic and websphere are slower, but still not anywhere near being a problem.
Really?! Please tell me how to make them start and deploy webapp in 8-10 sec and I will owe you...]]> Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:20:44 -0400 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:20:44 -0400 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:20:44 -0400 Sep 13, 2005 Giandomenico Mafrici 0 Is this needed? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 Commercial ones like weblogic and websphere are slower, but still not anywhere near being a problem.Really?! Please tell me how to make them start and deploy webapp in 8-10 sec and I will owe you beer]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:47:04 -0400 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:47:04 -0400 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:47:04 -0400 Sep 7, 2005 Konstantin Ignatyev 1 Is this needed? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357
For production servers, they are restarted, like, once a year?

For dev servers, from my experience, open source servers (tomcat, jboxx, resin, geronimo) start pretty fast out of box. Commercial ones like weblogic and websphere are...]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:19:00 -0400 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:19:00 -0400 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:19:00 -0400 Sep 7, 2005 Jing Xue 2 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 The JBoss/Geronimo approach is to allow you to specify up front which services you need. You want to incur the initialization costs during server startup, not in the middle of the first user transaction that requires the...]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:17:33 -0400 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:17:33 -0400 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:17:33 -0400 Sep 7, 2005 Rickard Oberg 0 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357
However, even now, each resource...]]> Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:39:46 -0400 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:39:46 -0400 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 02:39:46 -0400 Sep 7, 2005 Binod PG 0 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 This is part of the new microcontainer effort that Adrian Brock is working on right now.I think it's a very useful feature.
Indeed, though it is only one aspect of the JBoss5 improvements to the deployment state machine...]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 15:40:20 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 15:40:20 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 15:40:20 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 Adrian Brock 1 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 But do they initialize it on demand, or simply load in a sequence?
Currently, JBoss does it all at startup. However, lazy startup of services is planned (as an option) for JBoss 5. This is part of the new microcontainer effort...]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:49:13 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:49:13 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 14:49:13 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 Gavin King 2 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 The JBoss/Geronimo approach is to allow you to specify up front which services you need. You want to incur the initialization costs during server startup, not in the middle of the first user transaction that requires the...]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:55:33 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:55:33 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:55:33 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 James Strachan 0 Is this needed? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357
My questions are: How much memeory is saved? and How much is shaved from the startup time?

I have been working a lot with Resin and OC4J. Memory footprint,...]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:13:31 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:13:31 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:13:31 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 Matt Giacomini 3 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 This is really exciting. All of those container services that are available is one of the reasons that JEE is considered a "heavyweight" container, rather than a "lightweight" container. We can quibble on "heavy"...]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:45:20 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:45:20 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:45:20 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 Marius Danciu 0 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:32:48 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:32:48 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:32:48 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 Corby Page 2 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:23:11 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:23:11 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:23:11 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 Joseph Ottinger 6 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357
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LogicBlaze]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:17:13 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:17:13 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:17:13 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 James Strachan 7 Binod on Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36357 Lazy Initialization of Application Server Services" to present a sort of FAQ on Sun's use of lazy...]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:57:41 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:57:41 -0400 Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:57:41 -0400 Sep 6, 2005 Joseph Ottinger 13