Support Forums: Message List - Gemini 1.0 released: bidirectional relationships for POJOs http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 21:11:28 -0400 Towards a more domain focused code http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825 For the code saving part: how about just creating a couple of code templates (in your fav IDE/ editor) for things like this? If you are worried about lines of code, well... that's the way to go imho (or use plain old OO...]]> Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:39:06 -0400 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:39:06 -0400 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:39:06 -0400 Oct 5, 2005 Dragan Djuric 0 Towards a more domain focused code http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:05:20 -0400 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:05:20 -0400 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:05:20 -0400 Oct 5, 2005 Eelco Hillenius 1 Towards a more domain focused code http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825 I think a broader array of such tools will allow us to focus on more domain focused programming since the combination of aspects/annotations will reduce our development efforts one line at a time.
I very much agree about more...]]> Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:44:07 -0400 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:44:07 -0400 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:44:07 -0400 Oct 3, 2005 Erik Engbrecht 2 does it work with Hibernate field access? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825 Without having looked into how Gemini does it's trick: do you see any problems with using it on fields that are managed by Hibernate using field access (as opposed to property (getter/setter) access)Gemini handles it! In fact,...]]> Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:40:57 -0400 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:40:57 -0400 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:40:57 -0400 Oct 3, 2005 Dragan Djuric 0 does it work with Hibernate field access? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825
Some time ago i've created a small helper library for exactly the same purpose because i've found myself coding the same pattern in accessors again and again. There is hardly any project now where I don't need that functionality. So i actually...]]> Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:42:54 -0400 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:42:54 -0400 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:42:54 -0400 Oct 3, 2005 GeraldLoeffler 1 Not Really http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825 In Hibernate, the relationship is maintained in DB.]]> Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:45:46 -0400 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:45:46 -0400 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:45:46 -0400 Oct 3, 2005 Ranjan Baisak 0 Re: Gemini 1.0 released: bidirectional relationships for POJOs http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825 but if you use it in any real way you end up six months down the line with an unholy mess that you just can't trust.Do you have some real reasons to think that , or you just guess?
if it were completely...]]> Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:24:53 -0400 Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:24:53 -0400 Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:24:53 -0400 Oct 2, 2005 Dragan Djuric 0 Re: Gemini 1.0 released: bidirectional relationships for POJOs http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825
I wonder too about binary...]]> Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:13:09 -0400 Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:13:09 -0400 Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:13:09 -0400 Sep 30, 2005 Ross Bamford 1 Annotations vs Classes http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825 ...It is better that every framework come up with its annotations, than that every framework come up with its classes that you must extend and stuck up with.

While I am trying to keep an open mind about Annotations (and AOP as...]]> Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:23:11 -0400 Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:23:11 -0400 Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:23:11 -0400 Sep 29, 2005 Robert Hedin 0 I think you are missing something http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825
1. What would you do with simple
fields?
I dont know what you mean here. Can you please
explain.An example is Employee.company. When you set a new value of company
you have to remove the old value...]]> Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:16:49 -0400 Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:16:49 -0400 Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:16:49 -0400 Sep 29, 2005 Dragan Djuric 1 Towards a more domain focused code http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825
However if I was to consider this to be one of the relatively early commercial offerings which offered a combination of aspects and annotations in...]]> Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:25:41 -0400 Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:25:41 -0400 Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:25:41 -0400 Sep 29, 2005 dnene 3 I think you are missing something http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825 1. What would you do with simple fields?I dont know what you mean here. Can you please explain.
2. For Collections, lists. etc:a) You have to write a new DirectionalList subclass for every property that you want to...]]> Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:49:31 -0400 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:49:31 -0400 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:49:31 -0400 Sep 28, 2005 Dennis Bekkering 2 Simple Principle - Roll Your Own http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825
I wrote a paper on this quite a while back. I have it available on my website at

Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:23:21 -0400 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:23:21 -0400 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:23:21 -0400 Sep 28, 2005 david bock 0 Streamlined Object Modeling http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825
After waiting some months, I finally received my copy and have been reading SOM book last week. It is simply amazing.

I agree Gemini could be much more interesting by supporting SOM test methods. Actually it is a brilliant idea...]]> Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:14:58 -0400 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:14:58 -0400 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:14:58 -0400 Sep 28, 2005 Rodolfo de Paula 0 Test methods? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36825
No, Gemini does not handle test methods, because it is a framework for bidirectional relationships. Addin such thing would just overcomplicate the framework, which aims to be extremly focused and easy to use.

But, I am aware of...]]> Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:09:39 -0400 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:09:39 -0400 Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:09:39 -0400 Sep 28, 2005 Dragan Djuric 0