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        <title>What is still lacking in NetBeans</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[My IDE preference shifted to NetBeans since version 3.6 when performance was no longer an issue. At work, I've been &quot;standardized&quot; on both Eclipse and IntelliJ. My personal feeling: <br><br>Eclipse - You are right on about the plug-in. I never...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:35:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 8, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ric Wang</jf:author>
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        <title>Still unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It looks very good... but I found it still unstable in many situations. It freezes frequently and throws many exceptions while creating/ deleting projects. Hope it is not only me who faced that.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:44:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:44:14 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 6, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mag F</jf:author>
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        <title>competition is *always* good</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Actually I used Eclipse before it turned 2 and I remember how we were using the milestones in production.<br>Eclipse improved, but I feel that lately there is very little reason to actually upgrade.<br>The IDE feels done (if you forget about the GUI...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:12:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:12:49 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 4, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Barry van Someren</jf:author>
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        <title>competition is *always* good</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Actually I use both Eclipse and Netbeans.When doing J2EE I actually prefer Netbeans over Eclipse.Same when I'm working on Mac OS X.SWT support on Mac OS X is still abysmal compared to Swing (unfortunately)Both have their strengths.I just use...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:12:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 10:12:53 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 4, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bruno Patini Furtado</jf:author>
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        <title>Waste of Effort</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Netbeans is a figment of Suns imagination that they will dominate J2EE and Java development. It is just propped up by Sun to protect bruised egos of some engineers and VPs. It is high time Sun stop wasting resources and accept the fact that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:18:09 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:18:09 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Neeraj Vora</jf:author>
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        <title>Waste of Effort</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>SWT just produces deployment difficulties and cross-platform inconsistencies.</blockquote><br>I hear more of that but as a matter of fact swt works fine on osx, whereas swing is giving performance problems and look and feel inconsistency. Now...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:47:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 12:47:23 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dennis Bekkering</jf:author>
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        <title>Waste of Effort</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Even though Eclipse has a larger market share than NetBeans, NetBeans has its strengths.<br><br>Additionally, even if you are an Eclipse fan, NetBeans is a good thing -- it keeps Eclipse from resting on its laurels.  Some competition in the free IDE...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:44:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:44:32 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jess Holle</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Refactoring support</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I haven't checked the beta yet, but the previous version lacked several refactorings that I'm addicted to from Eclipse and IntelliJ. It was also a bit slower (less &quot;snappy&quot;) on my machine.<br><br>While all three are reasonably good environments...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:49:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:49:31 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Bergersjo</jf:author>
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        <title>JDeveloper is not stand-alone IDE, this is why...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Also, I wonder why no-one ever rants about Oracle J Developer as an IDE in the IDE wars.  Any ideas?Ed</blockquote>JDeveloper is team player with Oracle, OC4J, ADF, JSF-ADF, TopLink, SMC... If you looking forout of stack product,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:28:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dennis Bekkering</jf:author>
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        <title>Sorry, STARS, not START</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sorry, STARS, not START]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:06:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex V</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>JDeveloper is not stand-alone IDE, this is why...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Also, I wonder why no-one ever rants about Oracle J Developer as an IDE in the IDE wars.  Any ideas?Ed</blockquote><br>JDeveloper is team player with Oracle, OC4J, <br>ADF, JSF-ADF, TopLink, SMC... If you looking for<br>out of stack product,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:05:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:05:19 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex V</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Choice is good</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Nothing is wrong with choice.<br>I'm glad I can pick between Eclipse and Netbeans and I'm grateful to have them both.<br><br>It's the same thing with Open source application servers.<br>Choice is good, competition even better]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:16:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:16:11 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 07:16:11 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Barry van Someren</jf:author>
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        <title>Matisse</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree with those indicating that Netbeans is a better integrated IDE as a whole.Being a JBuilder user for 3 now, I see Netbeans and especially Matisse as the 'holy grail' for fast and flexible GUI design , for us Java Developers.<br><br>Its OK you need...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 02:32:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 02:32:53 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paris Apostolopoulos</jf:author>
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        <title>Matisse</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Well, I think one very interesting new feature of NetBeans will be the GUI builder called Matisse. I've been trying it with the 4.2 alpha development versions and it had a lot of bugs yet . Now with the beta version it seems to continue throwing lots of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:26:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dani Dani</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Netbeans 5.0 beta available for download</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=36868</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[if they manage to let Matisse build jsf apps i think they can really compete with eclipse. Also the recording of macros is really nice and it starts to look good. Somehow it feels more robust than eclipse, maybe because everything is integrated more.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:31:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:31:59 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 30, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dennis Bekkering</jf:author>
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