Support Forums: Message List - RIFE/Crud 1.0: CRUD scaffolding for RIFE released http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 16:07:24 -0400 ClassLoaders ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 It seems that Sun is starting to hear the requests, they ask for input and a discussion about the subject in this forum: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:11:37 -0400 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:11:37 -0400 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:11:37 -0400 Oct 26, 2005 Dennis Bekkering 0 ClassLoaders ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:52:10 -0400 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:52:10 -0400 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:52:10 -0400 Oct 26, 2005 gbevin 1 ClassLoaders ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 That road somehow always ends up dead. You will have to manage global vars or don't use 'm. And forget static vars. Even JUNIT can do this right, then why should i even try. I want my full hotswap and nothing else!
I agree...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:56:54 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:56:54 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:56:54 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Remi Vankeisbelck 2 ClassLoaders ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 using a fresh new classloader when you want
That road somehow always ends up dead. You will have to manage global vars or don't use 'm. And forget static vars. Even JUNIT can do this right, then why should i even try. I want...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:34:01 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:34:01 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:34:01 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Dennis Bekkering 3 ClassLoaders ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 Yes, currently in Java, you need to redeploy if you change the methods of a class.
It make sense IMHO.
If you change body of method it is no problem to replace class in memory. Only problem is when you introduce...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:07:49 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:07:49 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:07:49 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Remi Vankeisbelck 4 No, Trails does NOT generate code http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249
Yes, currently in Java, you need to redeploy if you change the methods of a class.
If you change body of method it is no problem to replace class in memory. Only problem is when you introduce...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:11:01 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:11:01 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:11:01 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Dennis Bekkering 0 No, Trails does NOT generate code http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249
Yes, currently in Java, you need to redeploy if you change the methods of a class.
If you change body of method it is no problem to replace class in memory. Only problem is when you introduce new methods....]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:16:30 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:16:30 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:16:30 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Andrea Aime 1 Code generation http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249
The downside of code generation for reusable logic is that you want to extend or override parts of it.
There is a simple workaround for that: only generate base classes and have users subclasss and...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:02:04 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:02:04 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:02:04 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Cedric Beust 0 Code generation http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:01:35 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:01:35 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:01:35 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 gbevin 0 Code generation http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249
The downside of code generation for reusable logic is that you want to extend or override parts of it.
There is a simple workaround for that: only generate base classes and have users subclasss and override them.It's...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:45:44 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:45:44 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:45:44 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Dennis Bekkering 1 Code generation http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 The downside of code generation for reusable logic is that you want to extend or override parts of it.
There is a simple workaround for that: only generate base classes and have users subclasss and override them.

It's so...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:40:32 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:40:32 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:40:32 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Cedric Beust 3 Re: POJOs? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249
because then we would have to config hibernate metadata to store pojo metadata... metadata of metadata!Jokes aside
that actually is not a joke you make there. You enter meta-meta area then. Can get very confusing but...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:39:37 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:39:37 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:39:37 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Henrique Steckelberg 0 No, Trails does NOT generate code http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249
Yes, currently in Java, you need to redeploy if you change the methods of a class.
If you change body of method it is no problem to replace class in memory. Only problem is when you introduce new methods. I'm looking...]]> Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:00:20 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:00:20 -0400 Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:00:20 -0400 Oct 25, 2005 Dennis Bekkering 7 RIFE/Crud 1.0: CRUD scaffolding for RIFE released http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:19:45 -0400 Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:19:45 -0400 Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:19:45 -0400 Oct 24, 2005 Bruce Tate 0 No, Trails does NOT generate code http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37249 If you change body of method it is no problem to replace class in memory. Only problem is when you introduce new methods.

That's what I meant.
I'm looking forward when sun allow even those classes to be replaced...]]> Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:46:55 -0400 Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:46:55 -0400 Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:46:55 -0400 Oct 24, 2005 gbevin 0