Support Forums: Message List - evolutionNext: "Inline XML in Java Code? WTF?" http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 18:53:11 -0400 Take a breather Sun! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:22:18 -0500 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:22:18 -0500 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:22:18 -0500 Nov 4, 2005 Eric Tavela 0 For what is it good for? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331
Christian,
DomTree mySubTree =myXMLDoc.XPathQuery("//Person/Address[City='Toronto']");
... However, it lacks compile-time checking, and thus lacks scalability to large implementations. ... But IF...]]> Fri, 04 Nov 2005 05:17:46 -0500 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 05:17:46 -0500 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 05:17:46 -0500 Nov 4, 2005 Chris BERNARD 0 XML as First Class Data http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 Rather than trying to modify the core Java language to include a syntactically different one (SQL, XML, ...), I would like to see some more generic approach to including code to be interpreted in another way, somewhat like how SQLJ was done....]]> Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:05:26 -0500 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:05:26 -0500 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:05:26 -0500 Nov 3, 2005 Brian Miller 0 For what is it good for? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 Christian,
DomTree mySubTree =myXMLDoc.XPathQuery("//Person/Address[City='Toronto']");
... However, it lacks compile-time checking, and thus lacks scalability to large implementations. ... But IF XML was...]]> Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:23:28 -0500 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:23:28 -0500 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:23:28 -0500 Nov 3, 2005 Brian Miller 1 For what is it good for? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 Christian,
DomTree mySubTree =myXMLDoc.XPathQuery("//Person/Address[City='Toronto']");
This type of implementation works, and indeed is what I presently use. However, it lacks compile-time checking, and thus...]]> Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:08:33 -0500 Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:08:33 -0500 Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:08:33 -0500 Nov 2, 2005 Chris BERNARD 0 XML as First Class Data http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:38:20 -0500 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:38:20 -0500 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:38:20 -0500 Nov 1, 2005 Barry Lay 1 XML as First Class Data http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:51:46 -0500 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:51:46 -0500 Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:51:46 -0500 Nov 1, 2005 Jeffrey Bonevich 2 evolutionNext: "Inline XML in Java Code? WTF?" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 - have to do (XMLkenstein);
- better way of doing (LAML);
- preferable way of doing things ( IDL and CORBA );
- ideal way of doing (ICE perhaps Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:13:57 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:13:57 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:13:57 -0500 Oct 31, 2005 Konstantin Ignatyev 0 evolutionNext: "Inline XML in Java Code? WTF?" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331
Java applications have to interface with the real world, not some imaginary one where some obscure replacement for XML is used.
Huh? What does it mean?

This:
XML is horrible, look at the...]]> Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:38:48 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:38:48 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:38:48 -0500 Oct 31, 2005 Steve Zara 1 OO Languages Too Obsessed with being Behavioral Oriented http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331
Steve,You and other XML inline proponents should understand - not everybody doing XML thing. Althought I work with EJB 2.0, I not very annoyed with all EJB/XML staff. Once infrastructure for project done, XML's only extends...]]> Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:27:15 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:27:15 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:27:15 -0500 Oct 31, 2005 Steve Punte 0 For what is it good for? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331
DomTree mySubTree =myXMLDoc.XPathQuery("//Person/Address[City='Toronto']");

This type of implementation works, and indeed is what I presently use. However, it lacks compile-time checking, and thus lacks...]]> Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:59:29 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:59:29 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:59:29 -0500 Oct 31, 2005 Steve Punte 3 evolutionNext: "Inline XML in Java Code? WTF?" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 Java applications have to interface with the real world, not some imaginary one where some obscure replacement for XML is used.
Huh? What does it mean?]]> Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:39:31 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:39:31 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:39:31 -0500 Oct 31, 2005 Konstantin Ignatyev 2 evolutionNext: "Inline XML in Java Code? WTF?" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 BTW: The issue is not "how much XML is used",the issue is "How much XML _should_ be used"

No, that certainly isn't the issue. Java applications have to interface with the real world, not some imaginary one...]]> Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:15:28 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:15:28 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:15:28 -0500 Oct 31, 2005 Steve Zara 3 evolutionNext: "Inline XML in Java Code? WTF?" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 The issue is not the aesthetics of XML but how much it is used.
Descartes four full centuries ago said: “a man is incapable of comprehending any argument that interferes with his revenue.”

BTW: The issue...]]> Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:00:14 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:00:14 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:00:14 -0500 Oct 31, 2005 Konstantin Ignatyev 4 For what is it good for? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37331 Very basic feature of Java is name and type safety. How it will work with your example? If you want something like XML inlining than look for some scripting language. For example Groovy has excelent XML support via GroovyMarkup and GPath.If...]]> Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:51:06 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:51:06 -0500 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:51:06 -0500 Oct 31, 2005 Chris BERNARD 4