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        <title>Will come back to haunt you.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I tend to agree with you.  However, the case Oracle mentions in that whitepaper isn't necessarily an indication of a bad design.  Signalling the middle tier to flush its cache may be impossible to avoid, depending on how the data changes, and how other...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 04:43:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 4, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Bowman</jf:author>
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        <title>Will come back to haunt you.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Having the data tier call up to the middle tier in my opionon is bad design.  re-analyis the requirement.  I really can't imagine why you &quot;MUST&quot; call a business method out up from the data tier.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:31:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jeryl Cook</jf:author>
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        <title>JMS</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Are there any other options anyone can recommend?</blockquote><br>You could always have your database stored Java procedure write a JMS message to a queue and have an MDB or some MessageListener started during your web app initialization...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 10:15:29 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joe Wolf</jf:author>
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        <title>An article at Oracle talks about this...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Cheers for your suggestions. I have some familiarity with SOAP over HTTP, so that might be best given our security requirements (we could use WS-Security to do strong authentication).<br><br>I'm not very familiar with RMI and am not sure what security...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:07:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:07:50 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris Nappin</jf:author>
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        <title>An article at Oracle talks about this...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It seems to me you need to make two decisions here.<br><br>1. What interface would you like to expose on your application?  Right now it is HTTP, which you don't like.  Alternative include RMI, SLSB, SOAP, etc.  If you own both the caller and the callee,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 08:41:18 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Bowman</jf:author>
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        <title>An article at Oracle talks about this...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Thanks for the link Eric. Unfortunately this is simply using a HTTP request, which is what I wanted to avoid...</blockquote><br>Hhm, what else would be doable? I'm really interested since we are basically doing the same when a callback to the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:47:29 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stefan Zobel</jf:author>
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        <title>An article at Oracle talks about this...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link Eric. Unfortunately this is simply using a HTTP request, which is what I wanted to avoid...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:35:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris Nappin</jf:author>
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        <title>An article at Oracle talks about this...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Somebody else recently posted a link to this article:<br><br><a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/java/java_db/pdf/OW_30820_JAVA_STORED_PROC_paper.PDF"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:17:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Bowman</jf:author>
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        <title>An article at Oracle talks about this...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Somebody else recently posted a link to this article:<br><br><a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/java/java_db/pdf/OW_30820_JAVA_STO"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:17:00 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric Bowman</jf:author>
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        <title>Invoking middle tier from database tier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37410</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[We have a requirement to invoke a piece of middle tier functionality (in a J2EE app server) from a database (PL/SQL code in Oracle 9i).<br><br>Our middle tier is a very basic JSP/servlets-based web application, no EJBs or JMS etc.<br><br>Any suggestions...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:55:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 3, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris Nappin</jf:author>
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