Support Forums: Message List - Pi Calculus for SOA 1.3.0 released - tool for choreography http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 04:45:03 -0400 Petri-nets vs pi-calculus for expressing global models http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:11:49 -0500 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:11:49 -0500 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:11:49 -0500 Dec 1, 2005 Steve Ross-Talbot 0 Formalism and WS-CDL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:32:56 -0500 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:32:56 -0500 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:32:56 -0500 Dec 1, 2005 traceroute 1 Formalism and WS-CDL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 Why is a global description of the service collaboration as in WS-CDL better than a set of local descriptions that each describes the behavior of the participating services (e.g. as a set of abstract BPEL descriptions)?
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Steve T]]> Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:24:31 -0500 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:24:31 -0500 Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:24:31 -0500 Dec 1, 2005 Steve Ross-Talbot 0 Formalism and WS-CDL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:14:23 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:14:23 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:14:23 -0500 Nov 30, 2005 Tonny Holdorf 4 Formalism and WS-CDL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:55:23 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:55:23 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:55:23 -0500 Nov 30, 2005 Steve Ross-Talbot 5 CDL and abstract BPEL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 Also Abstract BPEL was never designed to be able to express multi-party contracts in any scalable and sensible fashion. Whereas WS-CDL was designed to do this.
You are correct that Abstract BPEL and WS-CDL are complementary...]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:37:44 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:37:44 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:37:44 -0500 Nov 30, 2005 The Ugly One With The Jewels 6 CDL and abstract BPEL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760
Also Abstract BPEL was never designed to be able to express...]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:31:26 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:31:26 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:31:26 -0500 Nov 30, 2005 Steve Ross-Talbot 7 WS-CDL *is* a published candidate recommendation http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 http://www.w3.org/TR/

As to when a standard is a standard that is another point entirely. I think the diff between CR and R (to use W3C speak) is sufficiently small that it ceases to...]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:26:54 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:26:54 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:26:54 -0500 Nov 30, 2005 Steve Ross-Talbot 0 WS-CDL *is* a published candidate recommendation http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760
The W3C Choreography Description Language (WS-CDL) is a standard for describing how services interoperate based on their observable behavior.
this is pretty much misleadingWS-CDL is not a standard, it is...]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:23:46 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:23:46 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:23:46 -0500 Nov 30, 2005 Steve Ross-Talbot 1 Pi Calculus for SOA 1.3.0 released - tool for choreography http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 The W3C Choreography Description Language (WS-CDL) is a standard for describing how services interoperate based on their observable behavior.
this is pretty much misleading

WS-CDL is not a standard, it is...]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:50:33 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:50:33 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:50:33 -0500 Nov 30, 2005 The Ugly One With The Jewels 2 CDL and BPEL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 BPEL ... is a porogramming language that enables you to construct web services from web services in a recursive manner. And to execute the composed service in an application server.

...So CDL really is complementary to BPEL. There is...]]> Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:43:53 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:43:53 -0500 Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:43:53 -0500 Nov 30, 2005 The Ugly One With The Jewels 8 SOA will not succeed without CDL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760
We're now seeing a serious take-up of CDL in...]]> Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:46:23 -0500 Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:46:23 -0500 Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:46:23 -0500 Nov 29, 2005 John Davies 0 CDL and BPEL http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760
I appreciate you point. But as you say you are a CDL illiterate. You need to step back and think about how we design systems. And you need to step back and think about what BPEL does for you.

We design from the top down. So we need...]]> Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:19:11 -0500 Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:19:11 -0500 Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:19:11 -0500 Nov 29, 2005 Steve Ross-Talbot 9 Re: Pi Calculus for SOA 1.3.0 released - tool for choreography http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=37760 Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:14:05 -0500 Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:14:05 -0500 Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:14:05 -0500 Nov 28, 2005 Javier C?Ra 10