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        <title>grzałki do e-papierosów</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Nie od chwili dzisiaj rozumie się samo przez się o szkodliwości elektroniczne papierosy kauteryzowania. Figury, jakie ścięły uzależnienie tytoniowy, napomykają spośród fatygą skończony ów proces....]]></description>
        

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        <title>Alex Mandossian</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<p><span>We are beginning our journey of confronting our son today. I am grateful for this website and those willing to share of their experiences.&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;<a href="http://www.membershipsitesblueprintreview.net/" target="_blank">Alex...]]></description>
        

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        <title>contrarian?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Why?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:59:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>javamone  a value</jf:author>
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        <title>Developing J2EE applications without Spring? Why?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I've only used the Spring AOP, but I think AOP is a real boon.</blockquote>There are some issues with Spring AOP.  The thing that I find awkward is that because of the way it is implemented (proxying),...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 16:11:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 25, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David McCoy</jf:author>
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        <title>Not sure you really understand what Spring offers</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I think Spring has a branding problem. Some of the posts on this thread are evidence of that... many people don't really understand what Spring is.I think that Spring should be two separate things. The first is an IoC container, which (as...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 12:54:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 25, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Orlando Roebuck</jf:author>
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        <title>Developing J2EE applications without Spring? Why?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I've only used the Spring AOP, but I think AOP is a real boon.</blockquote>There are some issues with Spring AOP.  The thing that I find awkward is that because of the way it is implemented (proxying), aspects don't...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:37:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>Developing J2EE applications without Spring? Why?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38021</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I've only used the Spring AOP, but I think AOP is a real boon.</blockquote>There are some issues with Spring AOP.  The thing that I find awkward is that because of the way it is implemented (proxying), aspects don't always work...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:52:21 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>David McCoy</jf:author>
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        <title>Developing J2EE applications without Spring? Why?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38021</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I've only used the Spring AOP, but I think AOP is a real boon.</blockquote><br>There are some issues with Spring AOP.  The thing that I find awkward is that because of the way it is implemented (proxying), aspects don't always work when...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>uncomfortable. For me at least, once you're over the initial learning stage, the AOP-based solution offers clear and compelling advantages.</blockquote><br>No offense to some people, but you've hit the nail on the head. My impression of most...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>David McCoy</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Adrian, I'm not sure I get the point of &quot; However, the big picture view - the design and intent of the concern in your system - is lost&quot;.<br><br>Using OOP in certain senarios may not be as convenient, but I never feel like the big picture is...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Ben Yu</jf:author>
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        <title>&amp;quot;What is the threshold where Spring really does simplify?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote> I have tried to justify Spring for a few typical web applications, but honestly I couldn't justify it, because it did not make the application simpler. I wanted to use Spring, but the line count increased when I did, and when I got some code...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Terry Martin</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>In short, with polymorphism, you can hide detail but you can't lie. With aop, you literally can do anything.</blockquote><br>I accept that I'm more comfortable thinking about applications using AOP than most ;).  I want to make two points in...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Adrian Colyer</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hmm, Why my posts keep getting lost? Repost.<br><br><blockquote>My point is, as languages evolve, this kind of &quot;behind the courtains&quot; behaviour is just going to increase, and all we can do is learn about them and be aware of its effects, as...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Ben Yu</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't think you get the point.&quot;When the code says one thing&quot; means that when I see &quot;a=1&quot; I know the variable &quot;a&quot; is assigned with value &quot;1&quot;. Who said I have to care what the assembly is?And when I see...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Dec 20, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Spring - EJB3 - HOW TO Migration from EJB -&amp;gt; ESPB</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Rod,<br><br>thanks for the insight. So, in short if I'm going to build a *new* enterprise application and I need an enterprise component model I have 2 posibilities: ESPB (Enterprise Spring POJO Beans) or EJB. Using both makes no sense to me. And ESPB is...]]></description>
        

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