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        <title>Parting thoughts</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[You see ? Using tags, no validation, no feedback, mistakes all the time. :-D]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 06:41:18 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Pietro Polsinelli</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[I can do it....<br><br><blockquote>For any technical questions on the framework, see you on <a href="http://www.twproject.net" target="_blank">http://www.twproject.net</a>.</blockquote>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 06:39:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roberto Bicchierai</jf:author>
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        <title>Parting thoughts</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Ops... wrong link<blockquote>For any technical questions on the framework, see you on <a href="http://www.twproject.org" target="_blank">http://www.twproject.org</a> .</blockquote><br>For any technical questions on the framework, see you on <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 06:34:51 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roberto Bicchierai</jf:author>
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        <title>Parting thoughts</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[What is a framework ? For me, not something maybe elegant, but that forces you to write code in a certain way, declaring everything separately and first, or other punitive practices. For me a framework is a set of tools that work for me, not that get in...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 06:30:49 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 06:30:49 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roberto Bicchierai</jf:author>
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        <title>dirty framework for dirty developpers?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38133</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Why use XML and Tags when we can use excelent Java language ?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 03:05:58 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 03:05:58 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 21, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Richard Malaschitz</jf:author>
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        <title>dirty framework for dirty developpers?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>don't put java code in jsp!It should be only presentation.</blockquote>Depends. In general, not true.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:58:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:58:25 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:58:25 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 20, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Jouravlev</jf:author>
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        <title>dirty framework for dirty developpers?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I don't know this framework but source code example posted below is the perfect anti-pattern. It is not really a pattern but it is a perfect example of what I am asking developpers not to do : don't put java code in jsp!<br>It should be only presentation.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:27:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:27:53 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>bruno chevalier</jf:author>
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        <title>Wicket - no thanks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38133</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>We took a first look at wicket (I always enjoyed cricket, being half British), and at first is seemed quite nice, going in a sensible direction. The components do very little compared to those of JBlooming, but this is their philosophy. Then...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:29:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:29:10 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Wicket - no thanks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38133</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>&gt;What if you have a common part that is used by most of the &gt;pages as in your demo? Copy and paste. No no no: you should develop the corresponding component, which is very easy, exactly because you can rely on a JSP template. You are...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:12:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Davide Baroncelli</jf:author>
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        <title>Wicket - no thanks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38133</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote">What if you have a common part that is used by most of the &gt;pages as in your demo? Copy and paste. <br><br>No no no: you should develop the corresponding component, which is very easy, exactly because you can rely on a JSP...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:33:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Pietro Polsinelli</jf:author>
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        <title>More on components and tags</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Very hard to do cleanly with tags.</blockquote> <br><br>I don't find the source code of that model-1 jsp to be clean at all, indeed. And not only because it starts with the same exact code that there was at the beginning of the other example:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:33:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Davide Baroncelli</jf:author>
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        <title>More on components and tags</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38133</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Consider the folio component: with it, first you can create the elements, using the object hierarchy, <i>then</i> you can refer to them and rearrange. Very hard to do cleanly with tags. <br>You don't make a cake by first and separately putting the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 05:56:06 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 05:56:06 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 19, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Pietro Polsinelli</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>WTF ?!?!?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38133</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Again JSF is FRONT CONTROLLER ORIENTED. What is the FacesServlet then?<br><br>Some proofs :<a href="http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-dsgnpatjsf.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:09:00 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:09:00 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 18, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Jouravlev</jf:author>
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        <title>WTF ?!?!?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38133</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Again JSF is FRONT CONTROLLER ORIENTED. What is the FacesServlet then?<br><br>Some proofs :<br><a href="http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-dsgnpatjsf.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:58:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:58:59 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 18, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alexandre Poitras</jf:author>
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        <title>WTF ?!?!?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38133</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This model works for ASP.NET crowd quite well. While accusing others in technological illiteracy, you at the same time consider the Front Controller a holy grail of web dev </blockquote><br>It's a pity you didn't read what I wrote, you could...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:05:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:05:44 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:05:44 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 18, 2005</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Davide Baroncelli</jf:author>
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