Support Forums: Message List - ITToolbox Article: "Examining Enterprise Unified Process" http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 22 May 2013 08:52:15 -0400 Good job ! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 The help is about the method architecture, the activities, roles, deliverables. The detail doesn't matter.]]> Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:41:36 -0500 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:41:36 -0500 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:41:36 -0500 Jan 31, 2006 Erik GOLLOT 0 Good job ! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 sorry but it's just the truth not a list of buzzwordsIf you're an architect, you can understand that even for a method, the method's architecture is important. And EUP helped us to structure our method.But all of this is about maturity !!...]]> Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:49:36 -0500 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:49:36 -0500 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:49:36 -0500 Jan 30, 2006 James Watson 1 Good job ! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 If you're an architect, you can understand that even for a method, the method's architecture is important. And EUP helped us to structure our method.

But all of this is about maturity !!...]]> Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:20:16 -0500 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:20:16 -0500 Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:20:16 -0500 Jan 28, 2006 Erik GOLLOT 2 You need to be practical http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 When you say that, I think "if it's common sense, why do we need so much material on it?"
Wasn't it Mark Twain that said that the problem with common sense is that it isn't so common?

It seems...]]> Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:00:44 -0500 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:00:44 -0500 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:00:44 -0500 Jan 27, 2006 Scott Ambler 0 Good job ! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 It help us to structure our enterprise method (with the Enteprise disciplines, additional phases) and also help us to introduce all the necessary maintenance activities into a global method.The Production and Retirement phases are also...]]> Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:55:58 -0500 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:55:58 -0500 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:55:58 -0500 Jan 27, 2006 James Watson 3 Good job ! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 structure our enterprise method (with the Enteprise disciplines, additional phases) and also help us to introduce all the necessary maintenance activities into a global method.
The Production and Retirement phases are also a good...]]> Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:47:40 -0500 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:47:40 -0500 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:47:40 -0500 Jan 27, 2006 Erik GOLLOT 4 Scott Ambler's two faces.... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 Take a look at the material posted on the site, do you see anything that really isn't just plain old common sense?- Scott

When you say that, I think "if it's common sense, why do we need so much material on it?" It...]]> Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:01:00 -0500 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:01:00 -0500 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:01:00 -0500 Jan 27, 2006 James Watson 1 Scott Ambler's two faces.... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:40:58 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:40:58 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:40:58 -0500 Jan 26, 2006 Scott Ambler 2 Scott Ambler's two faces.... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 Grow up.The reality is that project teams, and organizations, are all different. Different situations require different strategies. As someone who invests a lot of time helping organizations to improve, I've found that I need to offer a...]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:23 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:23 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:17:23 -0500 Jan 26, 2006 James Watson 3 Feh and gah http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:02:20 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:02:20 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:02:20 -0500 Jan 26, 2006 Ethan Allen 0 Well ... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 ... don't use them all, of course. Use the artifacts that work for you and are produced as a natural part of the workflow. For (a very oversimplified) example, class and sequence diagrams will actually be produced and used during development;...]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:28:22 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:28:22 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:28:22 -0500 Jan 26, 2006 Ethan Allen 1 Agile RUP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 http://www.ambysoft.com/unifiedprocess/agileUP.html

- Scott]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:40:36 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:40:36 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:40:36 -0500 Jan 26, 2006 Scott Ambler 0 Scott Ambler's two faces.... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668
The reality is that project teams, and organizations, are all different. Different situations require different strategies. As someone who invests a lot of time helping organizations to improve, I've found that I need to offer a wide...]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:11:11 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:11:11 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:11:11 -0500 Jan 26, 2006 Scott Ambler 4 RUP as agile http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668
"You can make RUP look like agile, but it will never feel like an agile methodology"

But true, I haven't tried to put a lot of effort...]]> Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:09:14 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:09:14 -0500 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:09:14 -0500 Jan 26, 2006 Trond Andersen 3 Good job ! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=38668 First, I use EUP as a guideline and it is really a great help.
Can you give an example of how it has helped?]]> Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:31:08 -0500 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:31:08 -0500 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:31:08 -0500 Jan 25, 2006 James Watson 5