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Error Handling and Syntax

Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:48:40 -0500

The features that Max is talking about in FreeMarker have been part of our stable/production version for well over 3 years(!)

As someone adequately noted on Max's blog, it is not dissimilar to Windows Vista vs. Mac OS X...

So why is FM syntax wrong?

Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:33:32 -0500

I don't really get why is FreeMarker syntax wrong because of the tag delimiters. I surely know about mistakes in the syntax design, but it has no much to do with the tag delimiters, still I mostly just hear that complain. One could say that <...>...

Error Handling and Syntax

Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:17:35 -0500

1. Velocity 1.5-dev does actually it does show you where it fails:http://click.sourceforge.net/docs/error-parsing.html2.

Regarding point 1...

Max: A story about FreeMarker and Velocity

Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:23:24 -0500

I appreciate your pointing out Max's blog entry to readers of theserverside.com.

Since this seems to have generated some reader interest, I think it's appropriate to point out other blog entries that detail a transition from Velocity to...

re: freemarker syntax non-starter

Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:29:48 -0500

[Freemarker's] xml-based syntax, particularly for use in creating xml-ish documents like html is terrible.
Agreed, but then this was addressed in v2.3.4 so it's no longer an issue.

[]-based syntax is...

Error Handling and Syntax

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:50:11 -0500

1. Velocity 1.5-dev does actually it does show you where it fails:

http://click.sourceforge.net/docs/error-parsing.html

2. Well the point was Velocity is...

Error Handling and Syntax

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:04:58 -0500

1. does not change the fact that it does not fail on bad reference/syntax with a reference to where it went wrong.

2. if you just limit you to the features velocity has, then freemarker is equal...it is only if you choose to use the more...

Error Handling and Syntax

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 17:33:02 -0500

Couple of point on this subject I would like to make:

1. Error handling in Velocity 1.5-dev is revised to pass through RuntimeException classes. You can see an example of this with Click:

Whitespace?

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:47:25 -0500

I actually had it on my list of things to mention in the blog, but I forgot to mention it.

Whitespace is still an issue with velocity; freemarker again has much better default AND you can override it.

re: freemarker syntax non-starter

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:46:16 -0500

...and also mentioned in the blog ;)

re: freemarker syntax non-starter

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:25:29 -0500

[Freemarker's] xml-based syntax, particularly for use in creating xml-ish documents like html is terrible.

Agreed, but then this was addressed in v2.3.4 so it's no longer an issue.

Whitespace?

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:49:14 -0500

The last time I used Velocity was about a year ago so this may have been fixed. I switched to FreeMarker because I could not completly control white space in Velocity, which I felt was a very important feature in terms of a template engine. FreeMarker...

freemarker syntax non-starter

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 09:46:07 -0500

There's no doubt FreeMarker is better implemented and more carefully designed, but it's xml-based syntax, particularly for use in creating xml-ish documents like html is terrible. Velocity's syntax is exactly what I want from a templating language, and...

Nice article

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:19:14 -0500

I have been using velocity for a long time now and I got to the point that I could not tolerate the same problems you describe here.

To ease migration from velocity to freemarker I'm using

freemarker is nice

Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:24:23 -0500

and I use it too. For example www.abclinuxu.cz generates its content via Freemarker, it has 150 thousands users a month.