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        <title>Workflow engines comparison criteria</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[what is the criteria for comparing workflow engines? Can anyone compare Twister with ActiveBEPL and jBPM?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:14:36 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 13, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>qadeer mahrukh</jf:author>
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        <title>aspect annotations</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Annotating a BPEL process with extensibility elements opens up a lot of intriguing possibilites. One use is fine grained transactions demarcation, in coordination with a web services transaction manager. Other use is including hints for informed...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:46:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 1, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alejandro Guizar</jf:author>
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        <title>Difference between JBoss BPM and JBoss Rules (Drools)</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[see my comment on Paul Brown's blog: <a href="http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/technology/uncategorized/2006/02/21/jboss-workflow-jbpm-and-jboss-rules-drools/"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:48:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Baeyens</jf:author>
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        <title>Difference between JBoss BPM and JBoss Rules (Drools)</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Good to see that we'll have the same functionality as WF (and more) in Java (I think the Microsoft guys are touchy about calling it 'WWF' for trademark reasons).<br><br>Another question. I recently wrote an <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:02:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>paul browne</jf:author>
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        <title>regarding annotation</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[annotations definitely makes sense.  i agree, far better then the inpractical import/export.<br><br>we have thinking about something similar.  but i'm not yet sure about how to differentiate between design-time annotations and runtime annotations.  some...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:42:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 18, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Baeyens</jf:author>
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        <title>regarding annotation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Tom,<br>Regarding annotations, the idea is to simply be able to annotate a BPEL process with &quot;milestones and macro activities&quot;.<br><br>For...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:23:36 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 17, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Edwin Khodabakchian</jf:author>
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        <title>Agreed</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Tom,<br><br>The first picture in the &quot;Chapter 4. Graph Oriented Programming&quot; is very helpful in terms of describing your vision for GOP. <br><br>I agree with the value of a Java GOP framework for building other graph-oriented domain specific...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:23:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 17, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Edwin Khodabakchian</jf:author>
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        <title>The convergence between GOP and BPEL</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks !<br><br>I don't see it as BPEL versus GOP either.  It's BPEL and GOP.  So i don't think they will converge.<br><br>GOP is a technique to implement graph based execution languages in an object oriented programming language.<br><br>BPEL is one...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:57:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 17, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Baeyens</jf:author>
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        <title>The convergence between GOP and BPEL</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Tom,<br><br>Congratulations on the release.<br><br>I wanted to follow up on a comment you made regarding BPEL vs. BPM/GOP. You mentioned that one of the important aspects of BPM is the ability to bridge the gap between the analyst (picture) and the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:38:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Edwin Khodabakchian</jf:author>
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        <title>Graph Oriented Programming</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[An GOP execution is equal a PN token. In fact, in the jBPM implementation it's called a token.  But because i thought that the name 'execution' would make it easier for developers to learn about it, i took that name in the Graph Oriented programming...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:41:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Baeyens</jf:author>
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        <title>Good to see a Java competitor to windows workflow.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Very well spotted.  Windows workflow foundation is indeed the only technology that is in fact *very* similar to what i call Graph Oriented Programming.<br><br>The vision is definitely very close.  It struck me that they ended up with a very similar...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:22:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Baeyens</jf:author>
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        <title>Graph Oriented Programming</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the input, Tom. Oh and I forgot to say congratulations on the new release!<br><br>You say petri nets could be implemented using GOP. The funny thing is, when I read the article on GOP, my first though was that it should be the other way...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:06:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Kit Davies</jf:author>
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        <title>Good to see a Java competitor to windows workflow.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Recently attended a presentation on the new <a href="http://www.windowsworkflow.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=1" target="_blank">Windows Workflow</a> tool. As a Java developer , I was both impressed and worried.<br><ul><li>I was impressed, because it...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:00:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>paul browne</jf:author>
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        <title>Graph Oriented Programming</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[oh... and one more thing.  We believe that different environments and different goals require different process languages.<br><br>Developers tend to be skeptic about using process languages for Business Process Management (BPM).  And for good reason....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:22:03 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Baeyens</jf:author>
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        <title>Graph Oriented Programming</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39006</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Short answer: Petri nets can be considered as a graph based execution language and hence it can be implemented using Graph Oriented Programming.<br><br>Longer version:<br><br>In today's software development we use many languages:<br>* programming...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:06:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tom Baeyens</jf:author>
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