Support Forums: Message List - AOP@Work: AOP myths and realities published http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 22:15:27 -0400 Business Examples: Metering and Account Suspension http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 http://www.newaspects.com/enterpriseAOP.ppt]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:23:35 -0500 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:23:35 -0500 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:23:35 -0500 Feb 23, 2006 Ron Bodkin 0 The focus must be on how to manage AOSD. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 I think the part about AOP that has not been well-documented, is how it can be used to make project management easier, and to allow progress to proceed on a project without necessarily having to have all the information at that point....]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:20:40 -0500 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:20:40 -0500 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:20:40 -0500 Feb 21, 2006 Alexandre Poitras 0 The focus must be on how to manage AOSD. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:08:33 -0500 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:08:33 -0500 Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:08:33 -0500 Feb 21, 2006 George Lawniczak 1 Myth 1 not refuted http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:17:11 -0500 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:17:11 -0500 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:17:11 -0500 Feb 20, 2006 Alexandre Poitras 0 Myth 1 not refuted http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 I was wondering if anyone knew any links on the net that gave a detailed example (i.e. with pseudo code or code details) of a cross cutting business concern that for which aspect oriented programming provides an arguably good...]]> Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:16:14 -0500 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:16:14 -0500 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:16:14 -0500 Feb 20, 2006 Alexandre Poitras 2 Myth 1 not refuted http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:50:21 -0500 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:50:21 -0500 Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:50:21 -0500 Feb 20, 2006 Johnathon Smith 3 And this is new? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 Yes, "get/set" is a workaround for language limitations.It is trivial to implement stuff like this using byte code transforamtion.@Property (read="getter",write="setter")
This is exactly that...]]> Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:41:44 -0500 Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:41:44 -0500 Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:41:44 -0500 Feb 19, 2006 Konstantin Ignatyev 0 And this is new? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026
@Property (read="getter",write="setter")
public int myField;

public void...]]> Sat, 18 Feb 2006 03:49:27 -0500 Sat, 18 Feb 2006 03:49:27 -0500 Sat, 18 Feb 2006 03:49:27 -0500 Feb 18, 2006 Juozas Baliuka 1 And this is new? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 easy to implement without AOP languages, using annotation processing and proxies or byte code transforamtion to replace field access instructions with method call.Sorry about OT -could not resist.
Why?WHy? WHY Do we still have...]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:14:26 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:14:26 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:14:26 -0500 Feb 17, 2006 Konstantin Ignatyev 2 And this is new? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:31:55 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:31:55 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:31:55 -0500 Feb 17, 2006 Juozas Baliuka 3 And this is new? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 Things like Classloader are very basic to control AOP deployment.Not true. Classes can be weaved statically during build time and then deployed as usual.
Heck, AOP can be even applied at textual(source code) level, first...]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:42:31 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:42:31 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:42:31 -0500 Feb 17, 2006 Konstantin Ignatyev 4 logging and tracing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 AOP actually kind of suck for that, tracing is another storyYes, it suck for "development" aspects and home made aspect can not replace debuger or profiler. It sucks for things like transaction management and as more...]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:15:56 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:15:56 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:15:56 -0500 Feb 17, 2006 Juozas Baliuka 0 logging and tracing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 Show a good example where we would really use it
Ok here are a few:
  • Container Managed Transactions
  • Security
  • Caching
  • Dependency Injection


I could go on, but many of things you...]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:47:58 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:47:58 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:47:58 -0500 Feb 17, 2006 Ryan McDonough 1 What's a true killer app for AOP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 In the discussion after the presentation somebody asked what would be a true killer application for AOP. Nobody had any idea, but everybody agreed that logging, transactions, measuring execution time, etc. are no true killer...]]> Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:15:09 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:15:09 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:15:09 -0500 Feb 17, 2006 Steve Zara 0 Annotation Hell... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39026 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:15:12 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:15:12 -0500 Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:15:12 -0500 Feb 17, 2006 Juozas Baliuka 0