Support Forums: Message List - Are single element annotations a disaster waiting to happen? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 23:04:38 -0400 Re: Are single element annotations a disaster waiting to happen? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:15:00 -0500 Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:15:00 -0500 Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:15:00 -0500 Mar 11, 2006 gbevin 0 Re: Are single element annotations a disaster waiting to happen? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305
"you use them as methods or functions"?

Methods/functions have functionality in them. Annotations do not. Annotations merely hold information, they do not provide any functionality. That's why we have to use the...]]> Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:28:52 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:28:52 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:28:52 -0500 Mar 8, 2006 James Carman 1 And that's just the tip of the iceberg... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 my question was: how did it end up sucking so bad Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, but had you taken part in the debates back then, you would understand all the compromises and decisions that were made better and I'm...]]> Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:19:39 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:19:39 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:19:39 -0500 Mar 8, 2006 Cedric Beust 0 XML confiig is a disaster http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 How can you say that annotations is a night mare compared to XML? In an XML you have to keep track of the method name and signature and that is a maintenance nightmare, if anything.Do you really think that having the webservice...]]> Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:09:52 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:09:52 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:09:52 -0500 Mar 8, 2006 Guido Anzuoni 0 And that's just the tip of the iceberg... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 you're two years too late and I don't really want to dive back into all this.The spec is there and it's final, so how about discussing how to use it well instead of trying to change the past?
You're right, and I'm just...]]> Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:54:53 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:54:53 -0500 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:54:53 -0500 Mar 8, 2006 Clinton Begin 1 And that's just the tip of the iceberg... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 I seriously don't get it Cedric. Obviously.
How did this get screwed up so bad? I'm seriously losing faith in Sun and the JCP, especially when I'm seeing better stuff come from the ivory tower at...]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:33:39 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:33:39 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:33:39 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Cedric Beust 2 And that's just the tip of the iceberg... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 It would have broken existing code.

I think that's a big load of BS. Using very simple pattern matching you could determine the difference between:

  public annotation Todo {
  }

And...]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:38:03 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:38:03 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:38:03 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Clinton Begin 3 Are single element annotations a disaster waiting to happen? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 @interface Param2 is about as ugly as it gets imho. Of course if there's no option, you have to do that, but it's a last resource. It's not the last resort, it's the only resort if you want to evolve your API without breaking any...]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:04:16 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:04:16 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:04:16 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Cedric Beust 0 XML confiig is a disaster http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:32:05 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:32:05 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:32:05 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 gbevin 0 XML confiig is a disaster http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:19:59 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:19:59 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:19:59 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Bj??rn Caroll 2 Are single element annotations a disaster waiting to happen? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305
Euhm @interface Param2 is...]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:05:57 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:05:57 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:05:57 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 gbevin 3 Are single element annotations a disaster waiting to happen? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 When I have a method that has additional arguments,Annotations are *types*, you can't compare them to methods.

Add a method to an interface, you break clients.

Add an non-default annotation type member to an...]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:57:28 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:57:28 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:57:28 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Cedric Beust 4 Are single element annotations a disaster waiting to happen? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:43:38 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:43:38 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:43:38 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 gbevin 5 Are single element annotations a disaster waiting to happen? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 Cedric,instead of being forced to use 'value' as the single element name, you can from the beginning give everything a semantically correct name which continues to be used for the entire life of the annotation. Now, everybody is forced...]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:25:31 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:25:31 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:25:31 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Cedric Beust 6 And that's just the tip of the iceberg... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39305 What, pray tell, would have been wrong with this:

public annotation Todo {
  String whatToDo = "nothing";
}It would have broken existing code.

Would have been fun to have you on the Experts...]]> Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:22:19 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:22:19 -0500 Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:22:19 -0500 Mar 7, 2006 Cedric Beust 4