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            <description><![CDATA[Hi Petar, indeed this has still some overhead, but it's not very different from the overhead that you would get when you bubble up through all the scopes yourself, manually, to deliver a return value. You're also a lot more prone to errors as you have to...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Hi Geert,<br><br>I'm still not convinced, ok you are now throwing an exception without a stack trace. But, every time an exception is thrown the VM still has to release all the resources for that thread (locks, etc.) and re-acquire them once your thread...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Mar 14, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Petar Bodor</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Our site structure declares logic flows and data flows and the web engine takes care of handling the state transfer, the whole orchestration and 'resuming' the execution after the web request at the correct spot.</blockquote>Does 'resuming'...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:35:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Michael Jouravlev</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Yes. Be glad to. The continuation-style frameworks work by snapshotting a point in time, usually with native language continuations. So the flow of a continuation server is do work, snapshot state, save state in the session, send web page to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:28:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Michael Jouravlev</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[We've considered the term conversation snapshot.  It does apply; just like it also applies to you, however, a snapshot to me doesn't capture the essence of a program that can be continued from a certain point, which is what we have.<br><br>I particularly...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Mar 11, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Keith Donald</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi Geert,Just wanted to preface by saying I appreciated your last response.  I'd like to expand a little more on exactly what services this subsystem provides, to provide more rationale why I think it may be comparable to what Bruce calls a...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>gbevin</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Rob, of course it doesn't &quot;really&quot; matter, and I said before that I was nitpicking on terminology. On the other hand, if there are 100 different meanings for the term &quot;continuations&quot;, you've just confused everyone a lot and nobody...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>gbevin</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This seems rather inefficient, and a typical misuse of java exceptions. I'm also not sure what you mean by lightweight? You still get the standard performance overheads when your throw an exception.CheersP.</blockquote>You can create...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Good point, Rob.  It doesn't matter as much to the end user, who care most about solid implementation.  It does of course matter for communicating abstract concepts independent of implementation.<br><br>So when we're talking to SWF users, we're talking...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Keith Donald</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[This seems rather inefficient, and a typical misuse of java exceptions. I'm also not sure what you mean by lightweight? You still get the standard performance overheads when your throw an...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Petar Bodor</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[I think Keith has an important point bubbling under the surface here. Whether continuations is the correct term or not doesn't *really* matter. As an end user of SWF all I really care about is whether it does the job I need it to do, and I think it is...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Rob Harrop</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hi Geert,<br><br>Just wanted to preface by saying I appreciated your last response.  The discussion here has been interesting so far.<br><blockquote>Now of course SWF does a lot more and provides a mature execution model and state machine, however...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Keith Donald</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Regarding the comments made by Geert and Bruse on defining flows using native Java control structures. From my experience this is often harder than you would like it to be since what you really want is a 'goto' statement, not just loops and...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Regarding the comments made by Geert and Bruse on defining flows using native Java control structures. From my experience this is often harder than you would like it to be since what you really want is a 'goto' statement, not just loops and...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Mar 9, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erwin Vervaet</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hi Dmitriy, thanks for the link.<br><br>This is what I thought, even though you use Java there to structure the flow and provide the elements, you don't use the native Java control syntax express your logic. You abstracted the control structures in a...]]></description>
        

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