Support Forums: Message List - JDO 2.0 Passes http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:55:24 -0400 JDO, Entity Beans, Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 All of CodeFutures Hibernate customers are doing data-driven design.See. It it possible.
 So it's certainly possible, if a little strange given that Hibernate is for ORM.
Not really. It is...]]> Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:17:35 -0500 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:17:35 -0500 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:17:35 -0500 Mar 27, 2006 Mark N 0 JDO, Entity Beans, Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 However, if an organization has standardized on Hibernate as its persistence tier, it makes sense to still use it on new projects starting from scratch (i.e. data first, with a new database schema).PJ MurrayCodeFutures...]]> Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:40:40 -0500 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:40:40 -0500 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:40:40 -0500 Mar 27, 2006 Steve Zara 0 JDO, Entity Beans, Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450
I think you are setting up a false division between Hibernate and JDO here.
I think so too. I've been using Hibernate for a while. Doing a data driven design (as opposed to middle out) is possible with Hibernate, but...]]> Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:01:06 -0500 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:01:06 -0500 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:01:06 -0500 Mar 27, 2006 PJ Murray 2 JDO isn't dying yet http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 Thanks, Steve, for pointing us out. It seems Gartner thinks that we're worth noticing, too. They just announced today that we are one of the Gartner "Cool Vendors" of 2006
Congratulations. JDO is a cool API!]]> Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:00:48 -0500 Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:00:48 -0500 Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:00:48 -0500 Mar 21, 2006 Steve Zara 0 JDO isn't dying yet http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 Do Java developers really only see the need for routine database work, or should there be projects with more imagination and range? I think there should be - and some of the things that Xcalia are doing (described in a previous post)...]]> Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:28:01 -0500 Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:28:01 -0500 Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:28:01 -0500 Mar 20, 2006 Matthew Adams 1 EJB is not horrible http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 I have used EJB 2.1 and it works well I think!Yes it might be possible.
I have to admit that is the first time I hear such a statement.
Well, not exactly.
I have posted this story few times, see Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:05:48 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:05:48 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:05:48 -0500 Mar 18, 2006 Guido Anzuoni 0 EJB is not horrible http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 I think it really ridiculous to say “Entity beans is well known for its horrible API and poor implementions”, Erik Bengtson have you ever used EJB 2.1?
Happy to see that entity beans were good enough for you, but...]]> Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:08:30 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:08:30 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:08:30 -0500 Mar 18, 2006 Erik Bengtson 0 JDO isn't dying yet http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 Do Java developers really only see the need for routine database work, or should there be projects with more imagination and range? I think there should be - and some of the things that Xcalia are doing (described in a previous post) show the...]]> Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:15:56 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:15:56 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:15:56 -0500 Mar 18, 2006 Mark N 0 JDO, Entity Beans, Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 I think you are setting up a false division between Hibernate and JDO here.I think so too. I've been using Hibernate for a while.

Doing a data driven design (as opposed to middle out) is possible with Hibernate, but...]]> Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:59:58 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:59:58 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:59:58 -0500 Mar 18, 2006 Mark N 3 EJB is not horrible http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450
I don't see why anyone would start using JDO today. EJB EntityBeans has the support from big vendors and is regulated by the JCP. Hibernate is roaming free to implement new features (for better or worse). There are no reason for...]]> Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:06:23 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:06:23 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:06:23 -0500 Mar 18, 2006 Ove Nordstrom 2 JDO is dying http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 I don't see why anyone would start using JDO today. EJB EntityBeans has the support from big vendors and is regulated by the JCP. Hibernate is roaming free to implement new features (for better or worse). There are no reason for the vendors...]]> Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:34:44 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:34:44 -0500 Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:34:44 -0500 Mar 18, 2006 Erik Bengtson 3 JDO isn't dying yet http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 I don't see why anyone would start using JDO today. EJB EntityBeans has the support from big vendors and is regulated by the JCP. Hibernate is roaming free to implement new features (for better or worse). There are no reason for the vendors...]]> Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:21:00 -0500 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:21:00 -0500 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:21:00 -0500 Mar 17, 2006 Steve Zara 3 JDO is dying http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:54:51 -0500 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:54:51 -0500 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:54:51 -0500 Mar 17, 2006 Bj??rn Caroll 8 JDO, Entity Beans, Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 JDO is strong in creating the database structure from the Java-objects, which is just the other way around. This means that these are good for two different approaches and I do not see why either of these lacks justification for its...]]> Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:23:13 -0500 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:23:13 -0500 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:23:13 -0500 Mar 17, 2006 Steve Zara 4 JDO, Entity Beans, Hibernate http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39450 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:53:27 -0500 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:53:27 -0500 Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:53:27 -0500 Mar 17, 2006 Karl Brodowsky 14