Coherence proves the same problem can be solve with different techniques. Makes me wonder how "hard" it would be for a C++ guru to duplicate coherence performance. Since...]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:55:56 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:55:56 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:55:56 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 peter lin 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 Coherence proves the same problem can be solve with different techniques. Makes me wonder how "hard" it would be for a C++ guru to duplicate coherence performance. Since I know close to nothing about writing high performance C++...]]> Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:52:33 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:52:33 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:52:33 -0500 Mar 29, 2006 Erik Engbrecht 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602

I was thinking of a very specific case where the server needs to load 5Gb+ of data into memory and execute queries within 50ms. Doing that in Java in this specific case could be pain for very painful. Considering 32bit JVM can't...]]> Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:37:05 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:37:05 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:37:05 -0500 Mar 29, 2006 peter lin 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 The JVMs I tested all had significantly larger response times due to the garbage collection. With a 5GB heap I would expect a dropout for at least (probably much more) 1 second when a full garbage collection runs.

Without...]]> Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:51:46 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:51:46 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:51:46 -0500 Mar 29, 2006 Cameron Purdy 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 I was thinking of a very specific case where the server needs to load 5Gb+ of data into memory and execute queries within 50ms. Doing that in Java in this specific case could be pain for very painful. Considering 32bit JVM can't do it and I...]]> Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:50:14 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:50:14 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:50:14 -0500 Mar 29, 2006 Cameron Purdy 5 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:39:27 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:39:27 -0500 Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:39:27 -0500 Mar 29, 2006 Haug B?rger 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 Writing high performance apps is no easier in Java though and in cases where a developer has the skills to optimize at the low level, java becomes a barrier.If some had the C++ skills, they would be crazy to go with Java.

Then I...]]> Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:57:25 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:57:25 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:57:25 -0500 Mar 28, 2006 peter lin 8 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 http://www.lwjgl.org/projects.php

One that should be highlighted in that list is TribalTrouble, which won a prize for best (RTS?) game somewhere on...]]> Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:42:27 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:42:27 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:42:27 -0500 Mar 28, 2006 Henrique Steckelberg 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 To be fair, I could never see Java becoming the language of choice of games developers. It's just too slow for the type of 3D FPS stuff that is the most popular genre. Sure, theoretically it's fast enough, but empirically it would seem that...]]> Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:34:06 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:34:06 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:34:06 -0500 Mar 28, 2006 Mike Schanberger 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 Second, to my knowledge, there aren't any Java based libraries for things like DirectX, so that alone would prevent Tim Sweeney from considering Java, I'll bet. I mean, since DirectX doesn't work on anything but Windows, the question wouldn't...]]> Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:27:20 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:27:20 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:27:20 -0500 Mar 28, 2006 rory Winston 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 Malloc/free are really kind of crappy and in many cases, especially for applications with long process lifetimes (this IS "the server side") where heap fragmentation can take place.

Having written many...]]> Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:24:13 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:24:13 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:24:13 -0500 Mar 28, 2006 Tero Vaananen 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39602 Writing high performance apps is no easier in Java though and in cases where a developer has the skills to optimize at the low level, java becomes a barrier.

If some had the C++ skills, they would be crazy to go with Java.

Then I am...]]> Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:43:22 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:43:22 -0500 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:43:22 -0500 Mar 28, 2006 Steve Zara 9