Support Forums: Message List - SOA acceptance among developers? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 07:45:05 -0400 SOA is the computing platform of the future http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:09:02 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:09:02 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:09:02 -0400 Apr 6, 2006 Javier C?Ra 0 Newbie question http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 What's SOA all about after all?Is it SOA a component architecture with a OPEN, EASYLY IMPLEMENTABLE, WHICHEVER IT IS, communication stack?
Simple! It stands for Service Oriented Architecture.

It is...]]> Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:36:21 -0400 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:36:21 -0400 Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:36:21 -0400 Apr 4, 2006 Erik Engbrecht 0 Newbie question http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680
Is it SOA a component architecture with a OPEN, EASYLY IMPLEMENTABLE, WHICHEVER IT IS, communication stack?]]> Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:25:15 -0400 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:25:15 -0400 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:25:15 -0400 Apr 3, 2006 Andr? Augusto Oliveira Arag?o 1 heard before http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 Never mind if the arguments were right or wrong, it is unquestionable, the OO sat...]]> Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:02:46 -0400 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:02:46 -0400 Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:02:46 -0400 Apr 3, 2006 Hardy Henneberg 2 Reliability of WebServices ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 I'd say it has already lost all meaning and become utterly useless. Just re-read this whole thread and count the number of meanings: to each his own. It's a new concept but everyone was doing it 20 years ago; it's entirely XML/WS*-based but...]]> Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:11:37 -0500 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:11:37 -0500 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:11:37 -0500 Mar 31, 2006 Neil Ellis 0 Statefull SOA using POJO and Spaces http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 Developers also admitted to scalability problems, and the majority of participants responded positively when asked whether their applications had high performance requirements or unmet high throughput requirements. This sentiment may be...]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:00:57 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:00:57 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:00:57 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Nati Shalom 0 SOA acceptance among developers? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 SOA is not web services! SOA extends component based and 3-tier architectures. Web services are just a buzz word for some technologies that can be used to implement services. You can do SOA in Tuxedo in C if you want. For internal services...]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:09:08 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:09:08 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:09:08 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Erik Onnen 0 Reliability of WebServices ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:00:05 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:00:05 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:00:05 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 William Childers 0 SOA acceptance among developers? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:29:01 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:29:01 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:29:01 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Andrew Clifford 0 SOA w/o Web Services http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680
 - Straight HTTP (REST-ish)
 - MQ
 - EJB
 - JINI
 - and...]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:47:39 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:47:39 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:47:39 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Adam Chace 0 Reliability of WebServices ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 Example: I've seen this "if design patterns are good, then I should try to use every design pattern in the book". I've seen it done, and it ain't pretty. Another Example: I've seen people do some strange things with AOP and DI....]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:18:48 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:18:48 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:18:48 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Alain Rogister 1 Reliability of WebServices ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 Of course it goes without saying that Design Patterns (DP) are good. But, like anything (SOA), they can be misapplied.I was refering to using DP just for the sake of it (and as many as they could. You could tell where they stopped reading in...]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:27:44 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:27:44 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:27:44 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Tom Fennelly 0 Reliability of WebServices ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680
I was refering to using DP just for the sake of it (and as many as they could. You could tell where they stopped reading in the...]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:13:04 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:13:04 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:13:04 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Rick Hightower 1 Reliability of WebServices ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680
Another thing is that SOA on low level can break OO designs. I saw already a couple of Java/J2EE systems where everything was "services" and OO design/programming was considered by developers as some problematic idea...]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:10:35 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:10:35 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:10:35 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Rick Hightower 4 SOA acceptance among developers? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39680 BTW, are you the Dru I used to know in Chicago?

Hi Bill,

Yep, that's me. :)

Dru]]> Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:01:20 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:01:20 -0500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:01:20 -0500 Mar 30, 2006 Dru Henke 0