Support Forums: Message List - FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sun, 19 May 2013 08:52:29 -0400 I was waiting for this http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 it is very secure.
it is robust.
It is Free!
from now on. I will ship all my later Java programs on BSD
I hope this will help other flavors of BSD like OpenBSD and NetBSD to better support of...]]> Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:09:16 -0400 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:09:16 -0400 Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:09:16 -0400 Apr 12, 2006 Arash Rajaeeyan 0 OK. Let me explain how software distribution works today http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819
Secondly, it is not unreasonable to expect it to work when clear instructions about how to install it are provided on the website. It is simple - providing, of course, a certified recent version of Java is installed, and not...]]> Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:00:47 -0400 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:00:47 -0400 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:00:47 -0400 Apr 8, 2006 Steve Zara 0 OK. Let me explain how software distribution works today http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 Secondly, it is not unreasonable to expect it to work when clear instructions about how to install it are provided on the website. It is simple - providing, of course, a certified recent version of Java is installed, and not something...]]> Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:59:32 -0400 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:59:32 -0400 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:59:32 -0400 Apr 8, 2006 Dalibor Topic 1 OK. Let me explain how software distribution works today http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 Distributions distribute software that's tested, works together well, and they can support. They also provide ways to manage the installed software, using the so called concept of "package management". They also provide lots of...]]> Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:15:52 -0400 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:15:52 -0400 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:15:52 -0400 Apr 8, 2006 Steve Zara 2 OK. Let me explain how software distribution works today http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 08:41:26 -0400 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 08:41:26 -0400 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 08:41:26 -0400 Apr 8, 2006 Dalibor Topic 3 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 The term java per se means nothing without a context.

I disagree. It may mean nothing to you without a context, but to me it means something that is certified as Java. To me, this meaning is of great importance, as it helps...]]> Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:08:55 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:08:55 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:08:55 -0400 Apr 7, 2006 Steve Zara 4 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 No, because it is well understood that 'C' or 'C++' covers a wide range of implementations. The term 'Java' means something.
It is an island.

The term java per se means nothing without a context. A distribution...]]> Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:32:10 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:32:10 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:32:10 -0400 Apr 7, 2006 Dalibor Topic 5 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 No, you are not. Not any more than someone decrying that gcc is available as cc and does not support some favourite piece of C99 that some random proprietary compiler does.

That's what the manual is for: learning your tools, and what they can...]]> Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:27:14 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:27:14 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:27:14 -0400 Apr 7, 2006 Steve Zara 6 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 I expect something called 'java' that is installed by a modern software distribution to be 'Java', or at least to do virtually all that a modern Java version does. When it doesn't, I think I am justified in being annoyed.
No,...]]> Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:01:48 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:01:48 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 08:01:48 -0400 Apr 7, 2006 Dalibor Topic 7 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819
But that is their issue, surely. By saying they need the executable 'java', they are implicitly requiring a certified Java implementation (whether they actually require it or not). This still does not mean that it is...]]> Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:00:21 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:00:21 -0400 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 06:00:21 -0400 Apr 7, 2006 Steve Zara 8 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 But that is their issue, surely. By saying they need the executable 'java', they are implicitly requiring a certified Java implementation (whether they actually require it or not). This still does not mean that it is appropriate for...]]> Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:26:54 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:26:54 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:26:54 -0400 Apr 6, 2006 Dalibor Topic 9 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819
cheers !!]]> Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:19:57 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:19:57 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:19:57 -0400 Apr 6, 2006 ketan padia 0 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819
Although I have great admiration for what is being done with open source versions of Java, I object to them being installed on my computers with binaries called 'java'. It is not Sun's fault that uncertified products are...]]> Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:56:49 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:56:49 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:56:49 -0400 Apr 6, 2006 Steve Zara 10 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 Some parts have been checked into Kaffe recently as well, so I expect that most open source VMs will move to full 1.5 support later this year. Fun times ahead.cheers,dalibor topic

That is impressive! I did not realise that...]]> Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:42:54 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:42:54 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:42:54 -0400 Apr 6, 2006 Steve Zara 0 FreeBSD obtains Java re-distribution license http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=39819 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:58:20 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:58:20 -0400 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:58:20 -0400 Apr 6, 2006 Justen Stepka 0