Support Forums: Message List - Schwartz replaces McNealy as Sun CEO http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 18 May 2013 08:13:46 -0400 Open Source Java http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:00:53 -0400 Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:00:53 -0400 Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:00:53 -0400 Jun 2, 2006 George Coller 0 Re: As an aside http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 Wed, 31 May 2006 19:03:59 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 19:03:59 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 19:03:59 -0400 May 31, 2006 Joe Thompson 0 As an aside http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074
Yes, because we all know that share price is the defining value of a company. That's why Berkshire Hathaway at $86,950.00 could buy over 17,000 companies the size of Sun at $4.99.On the other hand, it would only take three...]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:04:24 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:04:24 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:04:24 -0400 Apr 27, 2006 Cameron Purdy 1 As an aside http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 Yes, because we all know that share price is the defining value of a company. That's why Berkshire Hathaway at $86,950.00 could buy over 17,000 companies the size of Sun at $4.99.On the other hand, it would only take three consecutive 2:1...]]> Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:34:11 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:34:11 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:34:11 -0400 Apr 26, 2006 Joe Thompson 2 As an aside http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:33:31 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:33:31 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:33:31 -0400 Apr 26, 2006 Mike Brown 0 Joel's a good source of ideas http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074
I'm not at all affiliated with Joel Spolsky, and I'm certainly not phishing. I just like his writing style, and I think he's pretty insightful. He has some interesting comments...]]> Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:58:53 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:58:53 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:58:53 -0400 Apr 26, 2006 Patrick Carroll 0 Not much in this world is free http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 Of course you are free to implement your own JVM or J2EE server without paying Sun as well. It's just that you may not be able to call it just that, and it wont have the quality stamp of certification.

Sorta. That's what Sun's...]]> Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:50:53 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:50:53 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:50:53 -0400 Apr 26, 2006 Dalibor Topic 0 A true renaissance man... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:43:43 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:43:43 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:43:43 -0400 Apr 26, 2006 Andrew Doddington 0 Not much in this world is free http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 If you are an implementer of J2EE you have to pay Sun for the license, and it's not exactly a token amount (for BEA at least). The same thing is true for the J2SE license, and - I assume - the J2ME license and other Java technologies.I'm not...]]> Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:59:45 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:59:45 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:59:45 -0400 Apr 26, 2006 Wille Faler 1 Not much in this world is free http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074
Also, I believe Sun does charge ISVs for licenses for some Java technologies such as J2EE and J2ME.
Really? That's probably news for a couple of thousand ISVs or so..
If you are an implementer of J2EE...]]> Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:47:40 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:47:40 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:47:40 -0400 Apr 26, 2006 Henrik Stahl 2 As an aside http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 That's why Berkshire Hathaway at $86,950.00 could buy over 17,000 companies the size of Sun at $4.99.On the other hand, it would only take three consecutive 2:1 reverse splits, and Sun could buy Microsoft at $27!
What ?!...]]> Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:36:21 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:36:21 -0400 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:36:21 -0400 Apr 26, 2006 Dorel Vaida 1 As an aside http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 What jumps out at me in this story is the 38,000 employees of Sun. How long will it be before the shoe drops for all of these people employed by these companies trading in the low single digits?
Yes, because we all know that...]]> Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:50:12 -0400 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:50:12 -0400 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:50:12 -0400 Apr 25, 2006 Cameron Purdy 6 As Schwartz about JES !! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 Hi pony tail man, remember your fancy idea of per/employee pricing...the Java Enterprise System...is it still ALIVE
How predicatble. Here we go - sage advice from the real experts on running a multi-billion dollar, 40k...]]> Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:53:12 -0400 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:53:12 -0400 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:53:12 -0400 Apr 25, 2006 Rich Sharples 0 Re: who is Joel and why should I care ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 By posting links to crappy blogs, you are just phishing for Google ads.
Dude. Take a chill pill. First, that's not the poster's blog. Second, there aren't any Google ads in sight. Third, the post he linked to is relevant....]]> Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:53:20 -0400 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:53:20 -0400 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:53:20 -0400 Apr 25, 2006 Daniel Gredler 0 who is Joel and why should I care ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40074 By posting links to crappy blogs, you are just phishing for Google ads.
Did you read the blog? It's actually quite good - and I didn't see any google ads. And even if I had, considering there was value as an...]]> Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:31:07 -0400 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:31:07 -0400 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:31:07 -0400 Apr 25, 2006 Vafer Twokay 0