http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 01:25:38 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 RSF is designed for an environment where the greatest bulk of maintenance and development costs are expected to be *external* - that is, though perpetual costs incurred through requested reconfiguration from deployers and end users, and not...]]> Tue, 02 May 2006 14:47:42 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 14:47:42 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 14:47:42 -0400 May 2, 2006 Jevgeni Kabanov 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 High separation between presentation and content typically means much more work for the programmer :)
Yes, I agree completely. RSF is designed for an environment where the greatest bulk of maintenance and development costs are...]]> Tue, 02 May 2006 14:30:57 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 14:30:57 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 14:30:57 -0400 May 2, 2006 Antranig Basman 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 RSF stems initially from a community that is somewhat differently organised - rather than the end product being a single app that is constructed once just before delivery, we face a strong separation between not just one but potentially many...]]> Tue, 02 May 2006 14:00:50 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 14:00:50 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 14:00:50 -0400 May 2, 2006 Jevgeni Kabanov 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 Well, as our mission statement says -- we're ready to integrate :) And JSP has it's uses in large EA building, when you want to hide all of your design behind custom tags. We definitely will not build ourselves any templating engines, but...]]> Tue, 02 May 2006 11:24:43 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 11:24:43 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 11:24:43 -0400 May 2, 2006 Antranig Basman 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 Given RSF will probably someday be given a superstructure of a "heavy" model, I would say Aranea-over-RSF looks like a better fit than Wicket-over-RSF if only because i) you have more formality as regards how components cooperate,...]]> Tue, 02 May 2006 07:06:32 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 07:06:32 -0400 Tue, 02 May 2006 07:06:32 -0400 May 2, 2006 Jevgeni Kabanov 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 new Button("delete", "Delete User") {
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Out of interest, the RSF...]]> Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:20:55 -0400 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:20:55 -0400 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:20:55 -0400 Apr 30, 2006 Antranig Basman 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:00:15 -0400 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:00:15 -0400 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:00:15 -0400 Apr 30, 2006 Antranig Basman 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127
What i am curious in is when you have 3 tables and you sort or page in one table what happens with the other tables? How and where is that state?...]]> Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:53:04 -0400 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:53:04 -0400 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:53:04 -0400 Apr 30, 2006 Johan Compagner 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:45:38 -0400 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:45:38 -0400 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:45:38 -0400 Apr 28, 2006 Antranig Basman 5 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 Wicket has 'lack of respect of IoC idioms'? Very funny, as Wicket is an unmanaged framework, meaning that framework clients are in charge of creating component instances and hierarchies. It's amazing how that is considered 'heavy' and...]]> Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:35:09 -0400 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:35:09 -0400 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:35:09 -0400 Apr 28, 2006 Jevgeni Kabanov 6 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 Btw, I can't help notice that I have 3 of the core Wicket team tilting at me in this thread now - can we expect Jonathan to put in an appearance soon? :P
We felt you might like some discussion. It was all in the article ;)]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:32:29 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:32:29 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:32:29 -0400 Apr 27, 2006 Eelco Hillenius 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:21:56 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:21:56 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:21:56 -0400 Apr 27, 2006 Antranig Basman 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127
What about this:

i have 2 or 3 tables in one page. All tables are pageable and sortale.
Now i click first page 1 and i sort column 3 and then navigate to page 4

then i click table 2...]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:51:14 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:51:14 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:51:14 -0400 Apr 27, 2006 Johan Compagner 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 This sounds very interesting. I like the idea. To me, it is worth looking into.This could be an alternative that I would consider for shops that will never use JSF.
I really like the idea of a reimagined JSF written using the...]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:31:10 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:31:10 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:31:10 -0400 Apr 27, 2006 Rick Hightower 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40127 You keep talking about not having state.But you must have some data between request are you storing that in the page itself?
Yes, the "core" RSF state is held in a set of "bindings" which in HTML are...]]> Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:01:22 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:01:22 -0400 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:01:22 -0400 Apr 27, 2006 Antranig Basman 5