Support Forums: Message List - Comparing EJB2 and JPA: why? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 18 May 2013 20:54:36 -0400 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Warning: flamebait detected.

George, get some clue, if you'll try to attack someone, at least do it properly....]]> Sun, 04 Jun 2006 19:36:04 -0400 Sun, 04 Jun 2006 19:36:04 -0400 Sun, 04 Jun 2006 19:36:04 -0400 Jun 4, 2006 George Jiang 0 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Struts is much less well designed in the Web space than Hibernate2.1 in the persistence space, but still dominates other Web frameworks in the job market (aka how much the framework is used in the industry) and will continue to do so for a...]]> Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:34:11 -0400 Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:34:11 -0400 Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:34:11 -0400 Jun 2, 2006 Henrique Steckelberg 1 A POJO clarification http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:40:52 -0400 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:40:52 -0400 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:40:52 -0400 Jun 1, 2006 Guido Anzuoni 0 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Sorry, I probably didn't respond with the right blockquote or make clear the bit that I found unfair. It was the part that said:

In 2003 we started working with the EJB 3.0 expert group to bring the ideas from Hibernate...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 21:19:19 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 21:19:19 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 21:19:19 -0400 May 31, 2006 George Jiang 2 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 It turned out that there were some real problems with EJB 1.x/2.x, but I recall that there were relatively few people actually saying this at the time. Now, five years later, with the full benefit of hindsight, it is easy to see the...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 20:35:29 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 20:35:29 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 20:35:29 -0400 May 31, 2006 George Jiang 0 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696
I personally didn't care for Toplink and went to Hibernate afterwards.


Ah, well. It goes both ways, I guess. We also see people coming from Hibernate to TopLink. The important thing is that developers can try...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 15:04:51 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 15:04:51 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 15:04:51 -0400 May 31, 2006 David McCoy 0 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Wed, 31 May 2006 12:57:16 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 12:57:16 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 12:57:16 -0400 May 31, 2006 Mike Keith 3 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Wed, 31 May 2006 11:42:06 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 11:42:06 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 11:42:06 -0400 May 31, 2006 Gavin King 4 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 I personally didn't care for Toplink and went to Hibernate afterwards.
...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 11:36:35 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 11:36:35 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 11:36:35 -0400 May 31, 2006 Mike Keith 1 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Give me a break. I don't attack you or your product in public, why do you feel the need to attack mine. FYI, I had never even looked at TopLink when I first created Hibernate (though I did once work someone who had)....]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 11:22:49 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 11:22:49 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 11:22:49 -0400 May 31, 2006 Mike Keith 5 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696
Yes, among the many systems around at the time, there were several better systems than EJB entity beans. For example, TopLink was a better solution, but note that the TopLink of the time was quite different and far...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 10:35:56 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 10:35:56 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 10:35:56 -0400 May 31, 2006 David McCoy 2 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696
Yes, among the many systems around at the time, there were several better systems than EJB entity beans. For example, TopLink was a better solution, but note that the TopLink of the time was quite different and far inferior to the...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 10:07:57 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 10:07:57 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 10:07:57 -0400 May 31, 2006 Gavin King 3 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Well, since Hibernate was actually just released as a free scaled down version of TopLink
...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 10:04:45 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 10:04:45 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 10:04:45 -0400 May 31, 2006 Gavin King 6 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Yes, among the many systems around at the time, there were several better systems than EJB entity beans. For example, TopLink was a better solution, but note that the TopLink of the time was quite different and far inferior to the systems we...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 09:05:41 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 09:05:41 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 09:05:41 -0400 May 31, 2006 Mike Keith 4 Re: Don't use EJB anything http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40696 Hibernate was first released in 2001, specifically meant as a fix to the problems with entity beans in a Java EE environment.

In 2003 we started working with the EJB 3.0 expert group to bring the ideas from Hibernate back into the...]]> Wed, 31 May 2006 08:37:56 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 08:37:56 -0400 Wed, 31 May 2006 08:37:56 -0400 May 31, 2006 Mike Keith 7