Support Forums: Message List - Java DB is bundled in Mustang http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Tue, 21 May 2013 13:32:35 -0400 Re: Java DB is loosely co-bundled with Mustang http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40967 Mark:
So we should remove the wildly popular jconsole tool and the other diagnostic tools that were introduced in Sun’s Tiger JDK? We should remove the apt tool? We should remove the Java Plug-In and Java Web Start from...]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:50:44 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:50:44 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:50:44 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Mark Reinhold 0 Re: Java DB is loosely co-bundled with Mustang http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40967 So we should remove the wildly popular jconsole tool and the other diagnostic tools that were introduced in Sun’s Tiger JDK? We should remove the apt tool? We should remove the Java Plug-In and Java Web Start from Sun’s JRE? We should...]]> Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:02:03 -0400 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:02:03 -0400 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:02:03 -0400 Jun 21, 2006 Radu-Adrian Popescu 0 Re: Bundling may not be such a good idea. Think Maven like ! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40967 I think it would be cool to have a separate utillity that easily allows you to fetch things like JavaDB^H^H^H^H^H Apache Derby. Maybe it could just be a tool that uses the various Maven repositories that the community has been working so...]]> Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:39:04 -0400 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:39:04 -0400 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:39:04 -0400 Jun 21, 2006 Radu-Adrian Popescu 0 Re: Bundle Maven instead! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40967 If Sun wants to make it easy for developers to download and use an Apache product - like a database - then why not bundle Maven instead? Then show newbies how Maven can be used to download specific versions of the derby database.

Sun...]]> Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:54:39 -0400 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:54:39 -0400 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:54:39 -0400 Jun 21, 2006 Radu-Adrian Popescu 0 Re: Object persistence ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40967 Is this a reaction to MS LINQ ? In that case I think it is very poor. Adding just any JDBC database just doesn't improve the JDK package by one bit. Besides, Derby is not the fastest database for embedded use, as this benchmark shows: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:53:49 -0400 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:53:49 -0400 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:53:49 -0400 Jun 21, 2006 Radu-Adrian Popescu 0 Re: Java DB is loosely co-bundled with Mustang http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=40967

A relational database is an "implementation of JDBC"? Aren't you confusing this with a database DRIVER?

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JavaDB is only being co-bundled with the Mustang JDK; it is not integrated with the rest of the JDK bits in any way. It’s not on the default classpath. It’s not visible to the Java launcher, javac, or other tools until and...]]> Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:47:44 -0400 Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:47:44 -0400 Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:47:44 -0400 Jun 19, 2006 Mark Reinhold 6