Support Forums: Message List - Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 23 May 2013 13:09:22 -0400 Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:43:18 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:49:29 -0400 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:43:18 -0400 Jun 27, 2006 ReginaIT 14 Re: Don't be hasty http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:58:32 -0400 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:58:32 -0400 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:58:32 -0400 Jun 27, 2006 Matt Byrne 0 Re: Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045
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It must be realised that:
persistence != ORM
Domain business rules != specific storage engine

JDO allows that, JPA no.


Guido


Really?!

Do not you confuse much hyped JDO's...]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:50:50 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:50:50 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:50:50 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Guido Anzuoni 0 Re: Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045
First, I am noticing an increasing number of articles on persistence on TSS.
And, as usual, I always find people arriving now where many others where some years ago.


Aside from your JDO I very much like to...]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:43:41 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:43:41 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:43:41 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Guido Anzuoni 0 Re: Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 ......]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:19:14 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:19:14 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:19:14 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Konstantin Ignatyev 1 Re: Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 First, I am noticing an increasing number of articles on persistence on TSS.
And, as usual, I always find people arriving now where many others where some years ago....]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:44:17 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:44:17 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:44:17 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Stefan Schubert 1 Re: Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 ...Chris Richardson describes the different kinds of ORM bugs... So if I don't use an ORM tool I won't have to worry about these ORM bugs, right? Sweet!]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:49 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:49 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:43:49 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Race Condition 0 Re: Code Genreation vs. Testing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 Which model? The code is generated from the database schema....]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:36:10 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:36:10 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:36:10 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Dirk Ludwig 0 Re: Code Genreation vs. Testing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 Yes, and bugs are then reliably introduced in the model you use for code generation Which model? The code is generated from the database schema. Anyone who uses complex 'mapping' configurations clearly misses the point.]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:56:31 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:56:31 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:56:31 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Casual Visitor 1 Re: Code Genreation vs. Testing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 ...]]> Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:09:53 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:09:53 -0400 Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:09:53 -0400 Jun 23, 2006 Dirk Ludwig 2 Re: Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 As far the article is concerned, I have to disagree with the approach proposed (testing first the mapping).
In fact, you have to test the domain first, regardless the mapping.


Guido...]]> Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:18:54 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:18:54 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:18:54 -0400 Jun 22, 2006 Chris Richardson 0 Code Genreation vs. Testing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 A variety of bugs can lurk in the O/R mapping, including the following:...]]> Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:24:07 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:24:07 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:24:07 -0400 Jun 22, 2006 Casual Visitor 3 Re: Article: Testing a persistent domain model http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:48:26 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:48:26 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:48:26 -0400 Jun 22, 2006 Guido Anzuoni 5 Don't be hasty http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 >

Thanks for that insight. Before this moment I had never considered testing any of the software I create. But now I understand.

And I think this new understanding is going to change my career....]]> Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:37:39 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:37:39 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:37:39 -0400 Jun 22, 2006 Erik Engbrecht 1 ! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41045 Thanks for that insight. Before this moment I had never considered testing any of the software I create. But now I understand. And I think this new understanding is going to change my career.]]> Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:17:04 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:17:04 -0400 Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:17:04 -0400 Jun 22, 2006 Ethan Allen 2